Comments on: Laid off Wonderland developers to continue project http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/02/laid-off-wonderland-developers-to-continue-project/ THE MAGAZINE FOR ENTERPRISE USERS OF VIRTUAL WORLDS Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Open Wonderland marks first anniversary with free workshops – Hypergrid Business http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/02/laid-off-wonderland-developers-to-continue-project/comment-page-1/#comment-5329 Open Wonderland marks first anniversary with free workshops – Hypergrid Business Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:28:30 +0000 http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/?p=33589#comment-5329 [...] Wonderland was originally Sun’s Project Wonderland, but support was discontinued and project staffers laid off in early 2010 after Sun was acquired by [...] [...] Wonderland was originally Sun’s Project Wonderland, but support was discontinued and project staffers laid off in early 2010 after Sun was acquired by [...]

]]> By: Maggie Darwin (@MaggieL) http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/02/laid-off-wonderland-developers-to-continue-project/comment-page-1/#comment-3731 Maggie Darwin (@MaggieL) Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:10:09 +0000 http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/?p=33589#comment-3731 Adam... as I understand the whole project is licensed GNU General Public License (GPL) v2 with the "Classpath" exception. There's a detailed licencing FAQ at http://tinyurl.com/yhb8ltz (long form URL is http://www.projectwonderland.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=77&Itemid=70#Licensing ) We had a great community meeting in a Project Wonderland VW today, over 26 attending for a very productive and informative two hours. Follow @proj_wonderland on Twitter for breaking project news. If you'd like to know more about the tech without actually cracking open the source, I can highly recommend Doug Finnegan's short, lucidly-written module development tutorials: https://wonderland.dev.java.net/wiki/beginner/Wonderland_Tutorial_01.pdf https://wonderland.dev.java.net/wiki/beginner/Wonderland_Tutorial_01.pdf Adam… as I understand the whole project is licensed GNU General Public License (GPL) v2 with the “Classpath” exception. There’s a detailed licencing FAQ at http://tinyurl.com/yhb8ltz (long form URL is http://www.projectwonderland.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=77&Itemid=70#Licensing )

We had a great community meeting in a Project Wonderland VW today, over 26 attending for a very productive and informative two hours.

Follow @proj_wonderland on Twitter for breaking project news.

If you’d like to know more about the tech without actually cracking open the source, I can highly recommend Doug Finnegan’s short, lucidly-written module development tutorials:

https://wonderland.dev.java.net/wiki/beginner/Wonderland_Tutorial_01.pdf

https://wonderland.dev.java.net/wiki/beginner/Wonderland_Tutorial_01.pdf

]]> By: Layoffs Won’t Stop Project Wonderland | google android os blog http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/02/laid-off-wonderland-developers-to-continue-project/comment-page-1/#comment-3730 Layoffs Won’t Stop Project Wonderland | google android os blog Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:45:27 +0000 http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/?p=33589#comment-3730 [...] off to the Project Wonderland developers. Despite Oracle laying them off, the team will continue work on Project Wonderland. According to the project blog the core group behind the 3D virtual world toolkit believes in the [...] [...] off to the Project Wonderland developers. Despite Oracle laying them off, the team will continue work on Project Wonderland. According to the project blog the core group behind the 3D virtual world toolkit believes in the [...]

]]> By: Daily links for 02/06/2010 | Blog | Bob Sutor http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/02/laid-off-wonderland-developers-to-continue-project/comment-page-1/#comment-3725 Daily links for 02/06/2010 | Blog | Bob Sutor Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:34:59 +0000 http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/?p=33589#comment-3725 [...] Laid off Wonderland developers to continue project – Hypergrid Business [...] [...] Laid off Wonderland developers to continue project – Hypergrid Business [...]

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]]> By: Adam Frisby http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/02/laid-off-wonderland-developers-to-continue-project/comment-page-1/#comment-3695 Adam Frisby Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:10:57 +0000 http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/?p=33589#comment-3695 Ah interesting, I always read it was plain GPLv2 which had me not willing to take a peek at the code -- does that exception cover the entire codebase, or just the module framework? Ah interesting, I always read it was plain GPLv2 which had me not willing to take a peek at the code — does that exception cover the entire codebase, or just the module framework?

]]> By: Maggie Darwin (@MaggieL) http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/02/laid-off-wonderland-developers-to-continue-project/comment-page-1/#comment-3687 Maggie Darwin (@MaggieL) Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:54:25 +0000 http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/?p=33589#comment-3687 Full disclosure: Adam Frisby is a lead dev on OpenSim. Jordan is a Project Wonderland developer, ex-Sun. Michel Denis also works with PW, as do I. Full disclosure: Adam Frisby is a lead dev on OpenSim.

Jordan is a Project Wonderland developer, ex-Sun.

Michel Denis also works with PW, as do I.

]]> By: Michel DENIS http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/02/laid-off-wonderland-developers-to-continue-project/comment-page-1/#comment-3684 Michel DENIS Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:55:22 +0000 http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/?p=33589#comment-3684 Wonderland is GPLv2 WITH classpath exception, fyi Wonderland is GPLv2 WITH classpath exception, fyi

]]> By: Jordan Slott http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/02/laid-off-wonderland-developers-to-continue-project/comment-page-1/#comment-3685 Jordan Slott Fri, 05 Feb 2010 06:27:20 +0000 http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/?p=33589#comment-3685 Adam, Project Wonderland has a GPL v2 + Classpath license. So while I agree with your interpretation about GPL v2 (without Classpath), your statement about Project Wonderland is not correct. Jordan Adam,

Project Wonderland has a GPL v2 + Classpath license. So while I agree with your interpretation about GPL v2 (without Classpath), your statement about Project Wonderland is not correct.

Jordan

]]> By: Gaspar Roux http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/02/laid-off-wonderland-developers-to-continue-project/comment-page-1/#comment-3677 Gaspar Roux Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:25:03 +0000 http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/?p=33589#comment-3677 According to the PW docs, Wonderland v0.5 uses GPL v2 with the Classpath Exception. <a href="https://wonderland.dev.java.net/license-faq.html" rel="nofollow">https://wonderland.dev.java.net/license-faq.html</a> To be honest I'd probably rather have seen ASF/BSD licensing on PW, but the module system does seem to clear some legal angst. According to the PW docs, Wonderland v0.5 uses GPL v2 with the Classpath Exception.

https://wonderland.dev.java.net/license-faq.html

To be honest I'd probably rather have seen ASF/BSD licensing on PW, but the module system does seem to clear some legal angst.

]]> By: Adam Frisby http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/02/laid-off-wonderland-developers-to-continue-project/comment-page-1/#comment-3675 Adam Frisby Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:11:25 +0000 http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/?p=33589#comment-3675 "But the latest versions of the platform are written in modules. Companies can add new modules and distribute them through any license they wish, including commercial licenses, as long as they don’t touch the core code." Actually this isn't true according to the FSFs interpretation of the GPL - see: <a href="http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLModuleLicense" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLModul...</a> -- this is one of the reasons the GPL sucks; even marginal linking is a derivative work - it is at minimum deriving from the interfaces (which is unavoidable, it is impossible by definition to write a modular architecture where you don't reference any interfaces from somewhere). The only way to avoid this is to use the LGPL rather than the full GPL; or to have a lawyer construct an exemption ala the classpath exception. "But the latest versions of the platform are written in modules. Companies can add new modules and distribute them through any license they wish, including commercial licenses, as long as they don’t touch the core code."

Actually this isn't true according to the FSFs interpretation of the GPL – see: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLModul… — this is one of the reasons the GPL sucks; even marginal linking is a derivative work – it is at minimum deriving from the interfaces (which is unavoidable, it is impossible by definition to write a modular architecture where you don't reference any interfaces from somewhere). The only way to avoid this is to use the LGPL rather than the full GPL; or to have a lawyer construct an exemption ala the classpath exception.

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