Comments on: Media-on-a-prim coming to OpenSim in two months http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/07/media-coming-to-opensim-in-two-months/ THE MAGAZINE FOR ENTERPRISE USERS OF VIRTUAL WORLDS Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:31:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Maria Korolov http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/07/media-coming-to-opensim-in-two-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4949 Maria Korolov Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:36:48 +0000 http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/?p=34388#comment-4949 Seraph -- The problem -- as I mentioned in the article -- is security. Second Life and OpenSim both allow the use of long-distance camera pans. So you think you might be showing something to just a couple of people, but anyone else can zoom in and watch as well. Say you're sitting in a virtual cafe outside the Eiffel Tower (on, say, FrancoGrid) and you want to show a quick set of slides to your colleagues. In the real world, you'd notice (hopefully) if someone suspicious was leaning over your shoulder looking at your laptop screen. In the virtual worlds -- not so much. (Which is, by the way, an excellent reason to always wear underwear with skirts.) If I'm a company's financial director, and I give you access to this set of slides, I have to be sure that you're using them responsibly. Are you showing them only in private regions, where nobody but authorized people can see them? Or are you showing them in a public venue? These kinds of controls will have to be built in before we have full shared access for media. One type of control is geographical-based control, like what Teleplace uses. But they are able to do it because the entire world is a trusted world, run by the company, and each area of the world has its own access controls. That's not true for public grids. The other type of control are based on individual permissions -- where one person explicitly gives another the right to look over their shoulder. I think this is what will work best in a heterogeneous environment like the hypergrid. I don't know if this is something that can be done on the websites, with the same exact content being sent to multiple viewers. Or on the OpenSim server side. Most likely, this will have to be done in the viewer, by Second Life, allowing people to see scrolling of webpages for long documents, for example. -- Maria Seraph –

The problem — as I mentioned in the article — is security. Second Life and OpenSim both allow the use of long-distance camera pans. So you think you might be showing something to just a couple of people, but anyone else can zoom in and watch as well. Say you're sitting in a virtual cafe outside the Eiffel Tower (on, say, FrancoGrid) and you want to show a quick set of slides to your colleagues. In the real world, you'd notice (hopefully) if someone suspicious was leaning over your shoulder looking at your laptop screen. In the virtual worlds — not so much. (Which is, by the way, an excellent reason to always wear underwear with skirts.)

If I'm a company's financial director, and I give you access to this set of slides, I have to be sure that you're using them responsibly. Are you showing them only in private regions, where nobody but authorized people can see them? Or are you showing them in a public venue?

These kinds of controls will have to be built in before we have full shared access for media.

One type of control is geographical-based control, like what Teleplace uses. But they are able to do it because the entire world is a trusted world, run by the company, and each area of the world has its own access controls. That's not true for public grids.

The other type of control are based on individual permissions — where one person explicitly gives another the right to look over their shoulder. I think this is what will work best in a heterogeneous environment like the hypergrid.

I don't know if this is something that can be done on the websites, with the same exact content being sent to multiple viewers. Or on the OpenSim server side. Most likely, this will have to be done in the viewer, by Second Life, allowing people to see scrolling of webpages for long documents, for example.

– Maria

]]> By: sseraph http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2010/07/media-coming-to-opensim-in-two-months/comment-page-1/#comment-4948 sseraph Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:32:55 +0000 http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/?p=34388#comment-4948 A few things to note need to be said. You can't just throw any old url on a prim and click through it and have other avatars see what you see. The media is rendered client side. This means that each client will see the original url but not what you saw when you scrolled or moved to your next slide or whatever. For that to happen the url must be to a side that supports shared viewing or shared presentation. Some google docs do. More advertise they do but don't always work in SL as expected. However I discovered SlideRocket as a good alternative for presentations via media on prim in SL. Happily I see it is now being integrated into Google docs. Unhappily, unless Google buys it, it costs $$. The log on thing is not a problem with many sites. Many sites are designed for multiple viewing without having to log in. What would really be cool is if instead of Facebook credentials being used in virtual worlds a virtual world login could be mapped to external sites wanting credentials fairly automagically. Single sign on from SL or other virtual worlds to the web at large. A few things to note need to be said. You can't just throw any old url on a prim and click through it and have other avatars see what you see. The media is rendered client side. This means that each client will see the original url but not what you saw when you scrolled or moved to your next slide or whatever. For that to happen the url must be to a side that supports shared viewing or shared presentation. Some google docs do. More advertise they do but don't always work in SL as expected. However I discovered SlideRocket as a good alternative for presentations via media on prim in SL. Happily I see it is now being integrated into Google docs. Unhappily, unless Google buys it, it costs $$.

The log on thing is not a problem with many sites. Many sites are designed for multiple viewing without having to log in. What would really be cool is if instead of Facebook credentials being used in virtual worlds a virtual world login could be mapped to external sites wanting credentials fairly automagically. Single sign on from SL or other virtual worlds to the web at large.

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