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  1. trrlynn73@gmail.com'

    uh, in your graph you title the right column “Active users on the Hypergrid”. Then list grids NOT on the hypergrid. Am I missing something? [starting to think I live in some parallel universe where more and more makes little sense to me].

    1. maria@tromblyinternational.com'

      You’re right — those titles are really confusing. The green is on the hypergrid, red is not on the hypergrid. I’ll update the image when I get the chance.

      1. trrlynn73@gmail.com'

        phew, thank goodness to gracious….I was about to start watching for people saying down is up, up is down, right is left, and left is right.-))

        1. maria@tromblyinternational.com'

          Okay, should be better now. OpenSim has a higher-ration of hypergrid-enabled regions because most of the largest grids are on the hypergrid, and the closed commercial grids, on average, charge more for land and also do not allow free, self-hosted regions.

          1. trrlynn73@gmail.com'

            Less confusing…good article, btw.

            That would be very interesting if Hi-five allowed Kitely to deliver there. Of course much can change between now and then as much has so far this year, even.

          2. ilan@kitely.com'

            Hi Minethere,

            As long as they remain open source they’ll have a hard time preventing third parties from competing with them on the services they wish to use to monetize their platform. Even if their own distribution is locked into using their company’s marketplace, other companies will be able to come out with distributions that will use competing set of services.

            They could stop being open source but that would cost them a lot of goodwill and reduce their chances of becoming the “Apache of virtual worlds”. This in turn will help OpenSim, with its open-source license. continue to be a more attractive option for organizations and individuals who fear vendor lock-in.

            In any case, it will probably take High Fidelity quite a bit longer until their solution is market worthy, by which point various VR/VW offerings from much big companies (with much bigger marketing budgets) will start coming to market. Their best bet is to remain open source and try to attract as many capable developers as possible so they can have a better solution for people to start adopting before the big players with their big guns enter the fray.

          3. trrlynn73@gmail.com'

            Yes, true. I expect if I was to leave and come back in 3-5 years it would all be so different it would take a whole new learning curve to get up to speed…otoh

            If this all becomes easier to enter and be involved with, which also seems to be some thinking going on, then perhaps, as I would like to see, I can open my browser and browse the worlds, and go exploring, from it.

            That would be nice especially for old senile grandmothers just passing time…..hmmm

  2. ilan@kitely.com'

    Hi Maria,

    I think it is worth emphasizing that while Kitely currently delivers to 44% of public OpenSim grids it delivers to a lot more than 44% of the total OpenSim grids/standalones. Most private grids and standalones are Hypergrid enabled and those grids are not reflected your statistics. In fact, a significant percentage of our sales were done to avatars on Hypergrd-enabled private grids.

  3. me@timothyfrancisrogers.me'

    Are there any plans to enable WhiteCore support?

  4. services@farworldz.com'

    This is all very interesting and certainly High Fidlety ticks a lot of the boxes that got me interested in Opensim so long ago and sold me on the notion of a free Metaverse of connected virtual worlds. I guess which ever platform delivers those ideas best has to be the winner but I wont abandon Opensim lightly and neither will I take both feet out of Second Life any time soon but if HF turns out to be all that is promised then I will certainly get more interested. I like it that HF is open source and can be run on one’s own server even if it has to be part of the resource for the whole network which reminds me of a talk I had with Revolution Smythe when I was involved with Aurorasim. Rev is a clever guy and had some very advanced ideas how to build a secure platform. He told me, ideally, he would want to push to something else like Mesh Networking. With Mesh networks you are looking at the Metaverse grids a nodes which communication with each other. Each node is selfish and holds onto what its got but must act as a relay and collaborate to propagate data in the network. In other words it holds onto the content created there while sending data about the content over the network and relaying data from other nodes at the same time. This is a bit complicated to understand, but perhaps a better way to look at it is if the nodes are
    like mirrors reflecting data. No matter where the traveller goes they will be visiting a node that carries data unique to their needs, to them, to their inventory. They are a part of the whole and never really own anything unless they created it. Content thieves can not steal a reflection.

    When I read that HF needs to build a network of computers in order for the system to function then I did wonder if HF is being designed to use something like Mesh Networks as Rev described it and that definitely tick an impotant box for me. I will be watching the development more closely now.

  5. Outstanding to see Kitely once again pioneering a future of interconnected virtual worlds. Bravo, Ilan.

  6. sebastigdran@wp.pl'

    About the Second Life – I think it would be great advertisement for whole OpenSim community to let users buy the same product at the same time in SL and Kitely/Hypergrid.

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