AviWorlds teams with SkyLifeGrid

The AviWorlds grid is coming back up — this time with help from Josh Boam, founder of SkyLifeGrid.

“I am going to offer him paid servers and unlimited help,” Boam told Hypergrid Business.

According to AviWorlds owner Alex Pomposelli, the grid will be hypergrid-enabled, have its own virtual currency,ย and will allow both OAR and IAR uploads and downloads.

Self-hosted region connections might also be available, he told Hypergrid Business.

Alexsandro Pomposelli

Alexsandro Pomposelli

I’m pushing for self-hosted regions but I have to see if Josh will go for that,” he said. “I personally think it would be a good opportunity since OSgrid is down but at the same time that feature does not bring profits.”

Self-hosted regions allow people to connect regions running on home computers, typically for free. Grids that allow self-hosted regions typically also allow regions from third-party hosting providers like Zetamex, or Dreamland Metaverse.

However, every new attached region contributes to the load on a grid’s central servers.

"AviWorlds new SAGA continues! Now its time to retake what we lost! Our place our new era starts now. Our dream is here for us to take and enjoy! FEED YOUR IMAGINATION! FEED IT!!!!"

“AviWorlds new SAGA continues! Now its time to retake what we lost! Our place our new era starts now. Our dream is here for us to take and enjoy!ย FEED YOUR IMAGINATION! FEED IT!!!!” (Image courtesy Alex Pomposelli via Facebook.)

Troubled history

Pomposelli has previously attempted to run the grid himself, to operate it as an enclave on Kitely,ย and to host it with both Dreamland and Zetamex.

“These hosting companies are over-selling and the quality that they offer is not enough to handle a full blown grid like AviWorlds,” he said.

AviWorlds has shut down numerous times in the past, usually with little notice and little ongoing communication with residents.

In addition, there was a public relations problem during one of the closings, when Pomposelli promised refunds to all virtual currency holders, then pointed out that there is a minimum limit for withdrawals and declined to make a refund to at least one user.

This time also, a minimum withdrawal limit for currencies will be in place, he said.

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Maria Korolov

Maria Korolov is editor and publisher of Hypergrid Business. She has been a journalist for more than twenty years and has worked for the Chicago Tribune, Reuters, and Computerworld and has reported from over a dozen countries, including Russia and China. Follow me on Twitter @MariaKorolov.

43 Responses

  1. me@timothyfrancisrogers.me' hack13 says:

    I can assure you that at least Zetamex and Kitely doesn’t oversell. Kitely by its own way cannot oversell as it spins up cloud instances to auto-scale.

    • arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

      It is not my job to do this but perhaps when people say they can assure of some thing, they should be asked to prove it and then assure it.

    • disqus@zandramas.com' Zandramas Grid says:

      I have personally witnessed how Tim runs things and he runs a very tight ship.

      • arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

        Yes. Until one of his biggest ships SANK deep into the ocean! You are correct there. AviWorlds was one of TIm’s biggest if not the biggest traffic wise and he let it go righ out of his hands. But anyway. I am not here to crucify him or no one. What passed passed. Now it is a new era and new moment.

      • arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

        All I m going to say here is that AviWorlds is back. And I know that alot of you did not want it to be back and I know why. Anyways AviWorlds as usual now has alot of catching up to do. Less than 1 week we got 100 members now its time to start rolling over grids in the most popular grid list.
        We were attacked and had NO SUPPORT at all from the hosting company regarding that. The only communication I had from them was a threat telling me that the grid had to go find another hosting. So spare the grief I ve had enough Zandramas Grid.

      • arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

        Listen…I was looking at your website I just want to give you a heads up. There is a writing error on your front page.

        Welcome to your grid!

        Posted on: 2 March 2014

        By: Zandramas Management

        Welcome to Zandramas Grid a invite / referral only based community.

        should be Welcome to Zandramas Grid; An invite/referral only based community.

        • Alex — I really appreciate you taking the time to proofread other grids’ websites. But this is probably a situation in which you should contact the admins directly. If you don’t have their contact info (and they have a “talk to us” live chat button right on the site), feel free to email me a note and I’ll pass it along.

  2. I also want to add that most of the hosting vendors offer different tiers of service. If you rent a region that’s supposed to be able to handle X prims and Y avatars and have you have it loaded up close to the maximum PLUS are running a million scripts, then you might want to upgrade to the next hosting level.

    This is true everywhere. If you buy the cheapest web hosting, for example, at a certain point your traffic will grow to the point where you might need to upgrade.

    Now, I don’t know if this was AviWorlds’ problem or not, but it’s something to plan ahead for if you’re running a fast-growing grid.

    • arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

      Since you mentioned this Maria. yes I did have the regions that were supposed to handle high traffic under the most powerful hosting plans these two companies offered.
      The regions that were residential and were low traffic areas were under the lower power ones. So yes I always did anticipate high traffic in the areas that were designated to be under more pressure.

      But I can give you an example:

      CITYBYDBAY is my club region. I had it under a ONE INSTANCE only with 45000 prims. 1 REGION. 2gig ram I was told and I was told it could go up to 4 gig if necessary.
      The region couldnt hold 12 avatars in it at the same time. I have witnesses that can attest to the truth in this matter.

      Also when you are trying to bring a MESH object and the region CRASHES all the time. 2, 3, 4 times daily… cant handle uploads.
      That is my experience.

    • arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

      Just one small problem Maria with what you are saying. I did get the most powerful regions for the regions where I knew I would need power for high traffic. The regions with low traffic yes I did get the less powerful but not weak either. My plan was always very balanced. ๐Ÿ™‚ Everything you are saying I did. I know what I am doing Maria.

    • disqus@zandramas.com' Zandramas Grid says:

      Running Zandramas I have to agree with you Maria, we ourselves have witnessed what it is to grow. When we first opened we provided residents with options of “Levels of Service” Level 1 being the lowest performing going all the way up to Level 5 which handled more prims more people better performance etc.

      We ended up getting rid of the multiple levels because it caused so many people confusion they did not understand what level was good for them and now we offer only 3 types of plans.

      $35.00/month full region – Unmetered Prims – we have seen users use over 200,000 prims with no issues

      $20.00/month scenic package which includes 3 sims at regular full sim performance however with prim restrictions 750 prims per. “these regions are great for decorating etc instead of using off sim prims”

      Then we have our Variable regions which allow a max of 100k prims regardless of land mass size. * Pricing dependent on size of landmass.

      We have found that these prices simplified things and people were able to more so easily understand.

      • arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

        hmmm…..I have no idea why zandramas grid is in here talking about how great their prices are… I have always gotten the best plans and stronger plans available for the regions which were most traffic. The problem was that once the traffic came to them things went wrong. Too bad right?

        • disqus@zandramas.com' Zandramas Grid says:

          @aviworlds:disqus Currently we have 215* regions which are all paid for by residents “PAID regions”, we DONT give away free land. Second of all we don’t host all on one server like a lot of small grids do however Zandramas is now the size of 8 servers + our servers for website and assets are on even more servers, we also run a professional grade asset server that de-deuplicates and instead of using database for assets they are file based. We run at a commercial level.

          Our pricing is $35.00/month unmetered prims which is a very fair market price for what we offer and we do not have any performance problems in fact we have had excellent uptime and are able to hold big events with no issues.

          With this we also have constant off-site backups with a 3rd party provider that we pay money for as well. When you think of our costs and what you get and the concierge level service our residents love it.

          • arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

            Very nice zandramas or whoever you are…Impressive.! Keep up the good work. I will just keep feeding people’s imaginations! FEED it!

          • disqus@zandramas.com' Zandramas Grid says:

            It’s all simple economics you can not give your customers a well run grid for free. The money has to come from somewhere in our case our residents support our grid 100% Our pricing structure is fair and not greedy like the big boys. A good indication of a well run grid is it’s stability and willingness to get feedback from it’s residents and improve itself. We have now been in operation over 1 year and not once have we had to close or shutdown we have been up 99.999% of the year. Our pricing structure was designed to make the grid self sufficient and fair, not to line our pockets.

          • arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

            Sure…yeah… Watch me

  3. arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

    I never said KITELY oversold anything.
    I always liked kitely very much. The only reason I did not use Kitely was because I dont think my following would agree with kitely’s TOS and also the fact that there is a waiting time for the region to come up. And also it probably has problems with hypergriding into kitely due to the regions not being up. I m not sure about that tho.

    • ilan@kitely.com' Ilan Tochner says:

      Hi Alex,

      On demand region startups don’t prevent hypergrid teleporting into offline Kitely regions. If the relevant region isn’t active by the time the avatar teleport procedure has logged into the Kitely grid the avatar gets rerouted into a transfer station where it will remain until the region is ready (which is usually a matter of only a few seconds). Once the region is ready to accept avatar the hypergrid visitor will be automatically teleported from the waiting station into that region

      What part of our TOS do you think they’ll have a problem with?

  4. arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

    Hi Ilan ok. As I stated I did not know or was sure about it. But I did not say you oversell. That was the most important part of my posting. Kitely’s TOS has a few things I am not against it but it would be a problem for my community. I will take the FIFTH on this one. ๐Ÿ™‚

  5. arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

    I would like to say here that I did not ask Maria to write what she wrote above. My opinions were expressed to her via private email. The reason why she has posted that here well you all can guess why. I am not trying to make anyone look bad here. I had to respond to what came at me specially by the writer.
    I just want to have my grid up and running and please if you dont like me or dont like AviWorlds. Go to another grid or open your own grid …just leave me alone for once. Enough ok .

  6. cinder.roxley@phoenixviewer.com' Cinder Biscuits says:

    Feed everything, Alex! Woo!

  7. skylifegrid@yahoo.com' SkyLifeGrid says:

    All this talk about feeding is making me hungry ๐Ÿ™‚

  8. skylifegrid@yahoo.com' SkyLifeGrid says:

    Not sure what all the Hype is about From what I see Alex is a super guy and has been dealt a shitty hand in the past. Kinda how My company Jp Collection yachts takes heat in secondlife Reason behind it Jealousy we have over 100 yachts more than anyone in the game and they slander and bad mouth us just to try to hurt Jp Collections image.. I feel that alot of things that have been said over the years about this grid have been true but at the same time over reacting.. Alex is after all trying to do something and that’s more than half of what we can say about some people in this world.. I think it will be a pleasure to work with Alex even if i cant understand half of his team LOL

  9. skylifegrid@yahoo.com' SkyLifeGrid says:

    Building a future is not easy virtual reality is going to explode very soon .. Bed time for me ni ni hypergriders

  10. disqus@zandramas.com' Zandramas Grid says:

    Well it sounds like you have such an awesome hobby going on! We wish you the best of luck =) Ps, I don’t like candy ๐Ÿ˜€

  11. skylifegrid@yahoo.com' SkyLifeGrid says:

    My grids better than your grid na na Bo Bo who cares. It’s all the same. FYI let me put out that the only difference between us and zandramas is we have hypergrid they don’t

  12. skylifegrid@yahoo.com' SkyLifeGrid says:

    Not to mention isn’t the topic of hypergrid business basis mostly hypergrid topic ? Why is all the closed grids getting all the fame .. Leave it to grid sharks to utilize a post as a forum of free advertisement lol

  13. arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

    Now..apart from being a very badly done video; it has nothing to do with the subject here in this ARTICLE which is about AviWorlds and SkylifeGrid. So I ask MARIA for fairness to strike this video from zandramas down from this article. I dont really like man in underwear…

  14. arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

    Our paper people. not!

  15. arpholdings@gmail.com' AviWorlds says:

    AviWorlds now has a huge HYPERGRID TELEPORT HUB!