Nara’s Nook, Tangle Grid top this year’s grid survey

A record number of respondents voted for a record number of grids in this year’s sixth annual OpenSim grid survey.

A total of 1,006 ballots came in, of which 971 were counted. The rest were duplicates or invalid for other reasons. People rated 52 different grids, of which 22 made it past the 10-rating-minimum cutoff point.

As in previous years, the largest number of responses — 149 — came in for InWorldz, though the Great Canadian Grid, which came in third with 138 responses, was strong out of the gate. DigiWorldz was close behind the Great Canadian Grid in the number of responses for most of last week, before finally edging it out with 146 ballots cast.

Kitely residents cast 52 ballots, and all other grids had fewer than 50 responses each.

The number of responses is a combination of active users on a grid, and how excited they are to be on the grid. InWorldz, as the most popular grid, always does well, simply because of its size, while new, fast-growing grids are able to garner enthusiasm from new resident.

Total number of responses for each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

Total number of responses for each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

Another interesting statistic in this year’s survey is how many people visited other grids. Even if visitors don’t consider a grid to be their virtual home, they might still spend money there, attend events, and participate in activities, so these visits matter.

These numbers could also be considered to be a kind of check on the traffic numbers that grids release.

The following is a chart of the grids that were visited by at least 30 of our respondents. InWorldz and OSgrid obviously did well here, since they are well-established, popular grids.

How many people visited each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

How many people visited each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

Great Canadian Grid was a surprise, with 445 respondents — or nearly half of all voters — saying that they had visited the grid. This is an extremely high number given the relative youth of this grid. DigiWorldz, with 332 visitors, or 34 percent of the population, also had a very strong showing, for a grid that was only launched earlier this year.

PNA Grid, formerly Sunshine grid, reports high traffic numbers, putting it in the top ten most popular grid, but the French grid had only three residents rating it, and only 13 people who said they had visited it. This could be because it is a new grid and has a very niche population that isn’t aware of the rest of the OpenSim community.

Another surprise was Avination. Although 291 people said they had visited the grid, or 30 percent of all respondents, only seven rated it.

Write-ins Nara’s Nook, Tangle Grid rule the charts

With hundreds of OpenSim grids out there, I list just the top most popular ones in the survey and allow respondents to write in other grids of their choice.

Every year, one of the smaller grids is able to have a write-in campaign — and do extremely well.

Grid Survey - 2015 - Overview (Hypergrid Business data.)

Grid Survey – 2015 – Overview (Hypergrid Business data.)

This year Nara’s Nook, a small grid for writers and their immersive fiction projects, gained a perfect score for the overall quality of the grid, and a perfect score for community.

What I like most about Nara’s Nook is the educational and inspirational qualities of it,” said one respondent. “Nara [Malone] and her crew often push the envelope and figure out things that ‘can’t be done’ just so she can show they can. Plus she often has classes for learning hypergrid techniques. Great place to visit and learn.”

“In the two full years we have been established we … are closing in on our biggest dream,” wrote another. “To merge books and virtual worlds into one immersive experience. None of this would be close to possible if not for Nara and the talented builders, scripters and designers who share their knowledge with us. If not for the nurturing environment of OpenSim and it’s nurturing environment we would never have made it this far.”

Nara’s Nook also had just enough responses to make it past the cut-off level for this grid, and the fewer responses, the easier it is to get a perfect score. However, there were also many grids with the same number of responses — or fewer — who had very low scores, so a low number of responses does not necessarily improve the the rating.

Tangle Grid, DigiWorldz, Littlefield and Lost Paradise all got excellent 4.9 scores each in the overall category, but Tangle got higher marks for content and community, putting it slightly ahead.

Two of the lowest-scoring grids were OSgrid and FrancoGrid, non-profits run by volunteers.

The "overall" score for each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

The “how would you rate your grid overall” score for each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

Tangle, Littlefield and Nara’s Nook tops for content

Tangle Grid, known for its regular themed expos, scored a perfect score for content, with Littlefield and Nara’s Nook tied for second place. Littlefield is a grid known for its strong community of creators, while Nara’s Nook is unique in the immersive fiction content that it offers.

“I love that so many talented and enthusiastic people come to Littlefield and share their creativity,” wrote one Littlefield resident.

The content score for each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

The content score for each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

OSgrid, the largest and oldest of the open non-profit grids, scored lowest for content.

Nara’s Nook, Tangle tops in community

Nara’s Nook and Tangle Grid tied for community, with a perfect score each.

FrancoGrid and OSgrid tied for last place in this category.

The community score for each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

The community score for each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

DigiWorldz, Tangle, Littlefield and Virtual Highway all get perfect support scores

The commercial grids DigiWorldz, Tangle, Littlefield and Virtual Highway all received perfect scores for support.

ZanGrid, Lost Paradise, Kitely, Refuge Grid, YrGrid all tied for second place with a 4.9 score, followed by 3rd Rock Grid and Nara’s Nook with 4.8.

The support score for each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

The support score for each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

OSgrid’s support score was the lowest that any grid received in any category this year. OSgrid allows self-hosted regions to connect to the grid, however, so some of those support issues could have been region owners rating themselves. OSgrid is also a test grid, running cutting-edge code, a non-profit with support — if any — provided by volunteers and peers, and, on top of that, suffered a severe months-long outage a year ago.

“By its nature of being a test grid OSgrid it becomes difficult to answer some of the questions and the scores will seem skewed towards unsupportive,” said one respondent who rated the grid poorly in this category. “It’s also a grid that on the surface seems difficult to cope with or get to grips with because it requires a a different attitude to that which people are used to.”

Refuge Grid gets high technology score

Refuge Grid scored a perfect score for technology this year, followed by Nara’s Nook and Lost Paradise at 4.9 and Kitely, Tangle Grid, DigiWorldz and Littlefield at 4.8.

The technology score for each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

The technology score for each grid. (Hypergrid Business data.)

ZanGrid scored a relatively low 4.0 — “pretty good” — for technology, as a result of a couple of respondents ranking it poorly in this category — even though they rated it well in support. There was no explanation in the comments of why the grid received lower scores in this category in particular.

Residents would ‘absolutely’ recommend their grids

Almost all — 92.2 percent — of all respondents said that they would “absolutely” recommend their grids to others. Just 2.6 percent said they would “definitely not” recommend it, and 5.2 percent said “maybe.”

This makes sense because people who don’t like their home grids are likely to pack up and leave for congenial communities.

The few people who said “definitely not” seem to be residents either on the verge of moving out, or who had recently moved out but decided to rate their old grid, which they knew best, rather than their new grid.

Would you recommend your grid to others? (Hypergrid Business data.)

Would you recommend your grid to others? (Hypergrid Business data.)

Other Comments

The following are representative comments about the grids. There were 325 comments in all, some of them quite lengthy, and if anyone wants to see them, just email me at [email protected]. In addition to leaving out some of the repetitive comments, I’ve also skipped those that had negative personal attacks or that seemed libelous and edited out any personally identifying information.

3rd Rock Grid

“The people who are active on a regular basis are stellar folks, very nice group over there.”

“Over the years they have helped me with several tough problems. I am impressed with their service and super communications with the people using the grid. They also do a lot of charitable work. That also is above and beyond!”

“Very helpful volunteers, and nothing seems to be a problem, all you do is ask. Lots to do at weekends, a bit quieter during the week but normally somebody to talk to. Seems to have a nice community spirit. Land prices good. Community meetings every week . Lots of mainland to explore with walkways and mountains.”

AviWorlds

“AviWorlds really makes an effort to attract and keep its customers. They would just be perfect if they reached a better degree of automation and functions panel.

Counter Earth

Counter Earth is a new grid for Goreans… The group is a stable group and has been working together for a long time. The things I am most impressed with is that if you are looking to have a sim that gets to pick the way Gor is for you, they allow it and with autonomy. It has a lot of events, a university for training and much more. The main city right now is Turia but there are more coming! Exciting times for this grid. Check it out!”

Craft World

“This Grid and its owners have demonstrated their ability to manage in such a way an excellent event, which saw the simultaneous presence of 70 avatars: the inauguration of the Museo del Metaverso, on 7 March 2015.”

DigiWorldz

“DigiWorldz is a nice grid, I am here often. Nice people, great help and awesome land capabilities. Although I still am struggling with rezzing stuff I picked up from other grids, I am a satisfied person. The struggle has to do with not exactly understanding the difference between regular inventory and my suitcase. But eventually I get the hang of it.”

“For a grid that is only six months old, their content and resident concurrency rivals closed grids after being open to the public for a year. The grid is very forward thinking when it comes to creator rights and content, which I find most refreshing and reassuring.”

“I recommend DigiWorldz to everyone I run into. It is the most comprehensive and thorough grid I’ve experienced in a virtual setting… Support there is fantastic! never had an issue that wasn’t resolved within minutes!”

“I like also that the owners are known by their real life name, with a company with real address… When I submit a ticket or write an email suggesting new features, they do not try to evade them giving me pseudo reasons. They tell me what they are doing to achieve that that feature is implemented. Always very friendly, they thank me for submitting such suggestions.”

“Their prices can also not be beat and the availability of variable-sized regions makes it even more worth the price. I look forward to a long lasting relationship with DigiWorldz as I am now able to build my dream that I could never do — or afford — on other grids.”

DreamNation

“A real friendly grid, many of the grids I been too recently either no one was around or they just ignored you. At DreamNation, I was bombarded by help from the get go. There are scheduled things to do everyday and people show up for them! The help I got was nice since I been walking the grids for a while and really needed more about where to get stuff and help about some of the things only found on DreamNation.”

“[DreamNation is a] protected grid based on invitation. The benefit of protected is that we do not have many bad or nasty people but only nice and friendly people.”

Great Canadian Grid

There were more than 50 comments from this grid’s residents, two of which complained about support tickets and the rest filled with praise for the grid’s support, community, and low prices.

“For a new grid that is growing I would recommend it strongly. The upside is the support. The grid owner is quick to sort out problems, community is very good without the sleaze that can be found on other grids, a mature grid with respect for others. The downside is that the grid is a newer grid — just over two years old — so businesses are still setting up, also a little more fine tuning needs to be done on the code.”

“I keep telling my friends about it and have brought some in so far.”

“I have visited other grids and found friendly people on all of them too, but my heart lies in the Great Canadian Grid.”

“It’s been the friendliest grid, truly living up to Canadian hospitality and it feels like a family more then a grid.”

“Odd that you didn’t ask about pricing. The cost of living at The Great Canadian Grid is very reasonable; that includes how residents price items and the region pricing as well. Right now pricing is a great motivator for me. Also it doesn’t feel like a commercial grid yet I have great retail sales there.”

Note: I don’t ask about pricing in the survey since pricing isn’t really a matter of opinion — you can look up the prices of all the grids in our hosting directory and compare them directly.

“[Grid owner] Roddie Macchi actually cares about the people that use his grid, he is not selfish, I have seen selfishness in other grids. With Roddie it’s about community and a sort of peace you don’t feel to many other places. No matter where you’re from it’s about belonging.”

“The friendliest grid out there with support in a class far above the rest, and its modestly priced too! Easy to see why GCG is attracting residents from other grids without an once of advertising, just word of mouth from other happy campers eh :)”

“The GCG has virtually exploded in growth since December of 2014. There were fewer than 500 residents then and now the grid boasts over 2350. The owner’s honest, open attitude is infectious and is the baseline for the helpfulness and community spirit the rest of the grid residents offer to each other and newcomers alike. If you need it and ask for it in grid chat, someone will either give it to you or help you find it.”

“Well run by an individual who really cares what his residents want. He sets up polls for any major decision. Constantly asks for input. Does whatever he can to make the grid run smoothly.”

“If they get the export fix implemented, and a gambling licence, the grid will double in size in two weeks. Sims might not be so cheap then, just a word to the wise…”

InWorldz

About forty responses, most praising the grid’s stability and community. But a few people took the opportunity to vent about issues such as missing features that other OpenSim grids have, a lack of Kitely Market deliveries, and problems with forum moderation.

“Best scripting engine, best physics engine, great land offers on high grade servers, inventory self-backups, six official sandboxes, not a asset loss in the four years I made it my home. Great devs and infrastructure.”

“I do absolutely enjoy everything about InWorldz and I have been there for five years now. It is built on a solid foundation and the people in there are great too, always helpful.”

“I put a lot of time and effort in that grid and they just slammed the door on me without any consideration or hesitation.”

“I went to copy a comment I read on the forums that described my sentiments exactly. The thread was deleted. I swear this is true. In a way the deleted post says the same thing about them as I was wanted to say anyway. ”

“Inworldz did a major overhaul on their physics engine… and it is absolutely awesome! Great stable sims the smoothest sim crossings I have seen on any grid including Second Life.”

“The grid has lost and continues to lose its merchants. It has a nice community in terms of interactions between people, but the economy has contracted so much that it is not possible to even partly offset the costs of being there. I can understand why there is an exodus to other less expensive grids… It is rapidly falling behind to the improvements made in other places.”

“You can build amazing things in InWorldz, things you can’t begin to build in Second Life. And I love the community spirit and its support of the arts and events.”

Island Oasis

“I love this grid because of the personal attention from the founders and the staff. I remember how I felt when I joined some of the other grids — a lonely outsider noob shamefully begging random people for help with small things. ”

“As an ex-Second Life user, it would be nice if search listed all sims with accurate traffic, I would also like to make a suggestion, since many users be new with little to no experience of virtual worlds, maybe have a web page with how to guides, locations to get free gifts to start with, but overall a fantastic OpenSim grid with great staff.”

“Events calendar with lots of events, great prices on land sales, free land for life of membership. Owners very personable and accessible.”

“Have worked, played and created on many grids. I can honestly say hands down Island Oasis has the best tools of any grid I have ever been on concerning land ownership. I love that I can set my own recurring restart schedule — or restart it whenever I want on a whim, save up to five different copies of my region and restore it whenever I want — saves countless hours of work and recurring effort when being able to restore to a holiday theme with just one click then put it back to the former status once the holiday has passed. I also can’t begin to express how much I value the inventory back up feature.”

“I have moved all of my business to Island Oasis. They have the best customer service and the technology exceeds any other grid I have seen.”

“They do not tolerate trolls, and that makes for a stress free environment, which I most definitely love.”

Japan Open Grid

“For Japanese people , it is the only grid in Japanese. They provide support in Japanese. That is worth a lot for me, because I am beginner in OpenSim server and Linux.”

Kalasiddhi Grid

“I’m excited to see this grid develop, They are working on something radically different from other grids.”

Kitely

“Beautiful grid, each place is different and full of its own creativity. I like it there.”

“I already voted on InWorldz but when I saw a second home could be voted on I chose to also vote for Kitely. I am an active member there, I have a home. I log in regularly, attend the weekly town meetings and consider it
my hypergrid home — and InWorldz my non-hypergrid home.”

“Kitely has the best web-based marketplace design and experience offering delivery to hypergrid enabled grids whenever a product supports that option. For now it’s only lacking an inviting destinations page and some advance mesh and scripted products like mesh bodies and comprehensive sitter tools.”

“Kitely is fabulous for cost, resources and reliability. Social life still needs to develop more.”

“Kitely is stable and gives great customer support. I can build and not worry about the underlying technology. [Founders] Ilan [Tochner] and Oren [Hurvitz] are very responsive to the community. And if you have a question about anything, you can always find an answer in the forums.”

Littlefield

“Everything seems good except more traffic is required also more to be done regarding advertising. The main attraction is every thing is free at the same time it is a disadvantage as there is no economy which gives no incentives to creators.”

” I like to build and enjoy using this grid and the spirit of sharing resource and information.”

“I love the grid, my friends and family, and the educational opportunities.”

“Littlefield Grid has a lovely family atmosphere and the admin ensures that everyone is carefully screened to ensure quality participation over quantity of members. The Admin Team operates on a very open door policy and are always very prompt with any requirements to keep the grid running at optimum performance. Fabulous content creators and an amazing choice of modern, high quality content.”

Lost Paradise

“I love this grid. It by far has the best support I have ever seen. And you have access to support via instant messaging as well as email, which I find very personable and efficient. Everyone here is super nice, I have yet to run into someone who is negative, mean or anything other than nice. Pricing is excellent, service is excellent, community is awesome and you’re not harassed for sex from anyone.”

“This is a wonderful grid with a very friendly helpful atmosphere. The support is fantastic and virtually no lag at all.”

Metropolis

“The community is unique and very great. Everyone is welcome, regardless of origin.”

“I have enjoyed being a resident of the non-commercial, no currency, non-profit grid of Metropolis. It is a German-based grid but they have embraced us all. It makes for a good base to go hypergridding throughout the hyperverse.”

“The Summer of Arts is great! The support for the artists was really good.”

Mobius Grid

“The Mobius Grid is a fun and friendly community, with G-rated sims and M-rated sims so that those not looking for more mature content can still come in and have a great experience, the moderators keeping a close eye to make sure things stay safe and fun. The shops are still in development, but there are some really cool items and freebies.”

“We’re slowly getting there; already we have the kind of community I’ve wished to see for a long time. If it weren’t for this grid I may not have been in the hypergrid at all yet, it has raised my faith in what OpenSimulator is capable of.”

Nara’s Nook

“Naras Nook is led by enthusiastic trailblazers who are dedicated to getting the most out of the tools available, pushing for improvements in those tools, and having fun in the process, while helping others do the same.”

OSGrid

“OSgrid has become my home and where most of my friends are. I visit other grids but always come home to OSgrid.
Metropolis was a temporary home when OSgrid crashed and they were fantastic to us refugees so I have kept my land there too.”

“OSgrid is a free test grid running bleeding edge versions of OpenSim, so we expect to sometimes run across bugs… that’s what the grid is all about… making OpenSim better for everyone. That being said, OSgrid tends to be very user friendly and they normally respond quickly if a bug is found… If it were not for all the testing that goes on in OSgrid, the OpenSim software all the other grids are using would not be nearly as stable or reliable.”

Sanctuary

“Sanctuary is a small but very well kept grid. It contains various museums and (under construction) a new and beautiful version of late Lumiere Noir’s well known Ivory Tower of Second Life.”

“Sanctuary is an extremely well cared-for grid. Though the comunity is small, the grid has some really great features:
1. The region Eld with hypergates to practically every grid in OpenSim that is connected to the hypergrid — the gates being constantly updated and showing at any time if a grid is online or off
2. The vast Arcadia Asylum museum, the largest of its kind in virtual worlds, managed by Virtual Christin and Brian Landar, covering almost 16 regions — The Spirit of Arcadia 1 through 16
3. A neat replica of the Tadj Mahal on the regions Liberty and Freedom and last not least
4. Ivory City, Lumiere Noir’s dream of an extended Ivory Tower in Second Life, well known to thousands who have acquired their first building abilities there. After Lumiere Noir’s sudden and unfortunate death, his long time partner, Tosha Tyran, is finishing this huge work, wanting Lumiere’s dream of a combination of beauty and learning to become true on the regions Ivory City 1 through  4.”

SimValley

“Simvalley is a very nice, stable and relaxed grid. There`s always some kind of help from the helpers of SimValley or everyone online. It`s nice to be in Simvalley, to build, just to shop or meet other people.”

Virtual Brasil

“Virtual Brazil is a great place to play.”

Virtual Highway

“A wonderful small community of very friendly and helpful people. Free land, free uploads, what’s not to like?”

“Virtual Highway is a diverse and enjoyable place to be.

Virtual Life

“I love this grid. The support staff are friendly and they always are there to help.”

YrGrid

“This grid offers Bitcoin as in-world currency. It offers casinos and gambling. It also offers everything else you want from a grid. The support is excellent, quick, and friendly. And they are open for ideas and improvement. I see a great future for this grid.”

ZanGrid

“A very kind community welcomes you and stays in contact with you if you want to. They have nice freebies, good shops and a lively social life.”

“ZanGrid provides amazing support for the community, no matter how big or small the issue is, ZanGrid support gives over 110% service that you can not find on any other grid.”

ZetaWorlds

“This survey comes on the heels of a major move and upgrade to the ZetaWorlds servers and web interface. It really is good overall, even if it has been down for a time due to the upgrades. The community is small but friendly and for building, it is a great place.”

maria@hypergridbusiness.com'

Maria Korolov

Maria Korolov is editor and publisher of Hypergrid Business. She has been a journalist for more than twenty years and has worked for the Chicago Tribune, Reuters, and Computerworld and has reported from over a dozen countries, including Russia and China.

  • Quick note about ballot stuffing: one of the previous years, someone wrote to me and said that they had submitted a bunch of fake ballots for a grid, and told me the formula they used to generate the email addresses. I checked the original data that Google provided to me, and those ballots weren’t even there — they didn’t even make it to the first round of screening for duplicates and fake addresses.

    I understand that folks are passionate about their grids, and nobody wants to feel that some other grid is getting a leg up unfairly.

    They’re not. The biggest grids do have the most users, and they do submit the most ballots — but they also have the most complaints. Their scores are no higher than anyone elses.

    And some small grids do a stellar job of creating communities or providing services and come out on top in the rankings — in the past, we’ve even had write-in grids do well. And then, over the course of the following year, the scores would usually prove themselves as users would find these grids and discover that really were great, and settle in.

    Why only 20 grids? I picked the top 20 grids by traffic this month. Listing all 300 would be crazy talk. Again, in previous years, there’s usually been at least one write-in grid that did extremely well — and later grew to hit the most active lists.

    Do write comments! Tell us what you love about your grid, and what you’d like to see improve. Feel free to mention particular destinations or events that tourists must visit! The goal of this survey is to help newcomers to OpenSim find their new grid homes – – and for old-timers to learn about hidden treasures that they might be missing.

  • Cinder Biscuits

    How can you check every grid you’ve been to when it only lets you select one on that question?

    • Ooops! Thanks for catching that!

      I think I just fixed it. Anyone notice any other issues?

      • Let’s have another one where we vote for the worst grid, eh??? sounds like fun don’t it???-))

        • Adam01time

          You mean Great Canadian rip off 🙂

      • Alex Ferraris

        yes can you highlight AviWorlds is bright orange? Thanks 🙂

  • The radio buttons are by design mutually exclusive, so you need to fix your form. 😉

  • I think I fixed the multiple choice problem — if you’ve already voted, and the buttons weren’t working, Cinder, Xmir, please cast your votes again and in the comments say that I should delete the other ballot because the form didn’t work.

    Also — you guys are FAST.

  • Carlos Loff

    It is a petty that all the quality scores must be under the grid we spend more time, not always the grid where we spend more time is the grid we consider better on several issues, cheers

    • If you feel that a different grid is your OpenSim home, feel free to rate that grid, instead.

      And if you split your time between two grids, you can vote for both — just make a note of that in the comments.

      I would prefer that people rate just one grid though, the grid that they know the best, and have the most experience with, not, say, some grid they visited once a couple of years back.

  • Here’s a little picture of how people are voting so far:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1itVP7kCP8cBAIr-_aK8kxFTwHWgH7Cfalf2Cii09WBg/pubchart?oid=526421741&format=interactive

    Lots of votes coming in for Tangle Grid, which is a write-in. And Great Canadian and DigiWorldz seeing lots of turnout, as well.

    • Adam01time

      well you should do your trace back on the IP’s and look for multiple emails on the same IP. Great Canadian OMG that’s a f*&king laugh.

  • Adam01time

    Again all polls will never be perfect so relax have fun and check it and send. That said if the largest grids win all the time does that show quality could be. Is there quality in numbers that can be argued. So check Craft world or your favorite place and send it.
    I Would think closed grids would be off limits hey so what it’s not your rag it is Maria’s. Chop chop zing zing check it ding ding.

  • Logan Hunter

    Hello lady Korolov, I personally think that the Aviworlds Grid continues to grow more and more, what is still missing is the support from some players that unhappy with the guidelines of the AviWorlds go to other grids and attempting to defame the name and the Grid that Alex is building. The lady knows me already met at the AviWrolds presented the Lady Mile Island which according to your words to your liking. That way what the AviWoorlds needs a little support of the Lady with his visits to the grid to see how we’re working to make a grid where all your fantasies realised in a virtual world.
    Hugs lady Korolov.
    Logan Hunter

  • Question – lets say a person has more than one valid email address, what safeguard is there that a person won’t vote highly for the grid they are personally invested in, and then vote multiple times on other grids with other emails/names, rating them lowly just to throw the vote?

    • I think this is where Google does something with IP addresses — but you can change your IP address, by going to a different WiFI spot.

      So say you were really dedicating to putting down some other grid. You cast a bunch of ballots giving it lousy scores. And you do it over several days, so that the votes don’t come in all at the same time, in a cluster, which would give it away. You would need to cast quite a few votes to move the total score, so you’d be spending a good chunk of time doing this… And you don’t want to give all lowest-scores all across the board, because real people don’t vote that way, so you’d want to give bad scores but not TOO bad — which means you’ll have to cast even more votes to move the average number in any appreciable way.

      By this point, I’m thinking, if you’re willing to put all that work into it, maybe you’ve got a legitimate grudge against that grid. If you hate it so much that you’re willing to go to all the effort to do this, other people probably feel the same way as well.

      But here’s another way to look at it. Instead of spending all that time and energy making some other grid look bad, spend all that effort improving your own grid. Create content, events, mentor programs — stuff that would make residents happy.

      Otherwise, people might see your grid’s inflated score, come visit, get disappointed, and never come back again. What a waste of all that effort!

      I have a feeling that most people understand this, because in the past, grids that have done well in the rankings — especially smaller, lesser-known grids that did much better than expected — have usually done extremely well in the year after the survey. People came to check them out, and discovered that there was stuff there worth coming for.

      Similarly, grids that have scored worse than expected have usually lost ground over the following year, as dissatisfied residents finally packed up their bags and left.

      Which brings me to another issue. If you give a grid low scores across the board, then why are you calling that grid your home grid? Most people who vote tend to give their home grids average scores or better, and if they do rank it badly, it’s usually in just some one area that they would like to see improved. People don’t stick around long on grids they hate.

      There are also a couple of other checks that I’m not going to go into detail about.

      • Adam01time

        There is no real way to stop proxies but only grid owners would take that time and do it a few a day giving the boost to them. in the truth there is no real way. and for Maria to hand pick everyone is a lot of work. relax have fun chop chop zing zing.

      • You say ‘why would you call that grid your home grid’ — well case in point.JUST happened.. Someone was in IW, no one had any problem with the person. The person made suggestions about auctioning off public waterways, people didnt like that idea.No one was mean about it (of course he has since deleted the thread) Now he and his gf are in another grid badmouthing IW at every turn. they were not banned, silenced, kicked out, chased out. they left.. and there was no big argument or anything. They are now GCG residents and right on their front page, the one said she claimed IW as her home grid and rated it badly enough that she would get in trouble were she in school . Some people really do go to those levels simply because it makes them feel good. Ive been in numerous grids and for years have loved IW, as have my 100 friends that i see regularly, having a good time. The people, the prim counts, the community – everything is great. There is a little group of haters however that go about opensim trolling against IW simply BECAUSE. NOT for legitimate reason. Do bullies on the playground who beat up others have REASON? No – they are just bullies.

      • “By this point, I’m thinking, if you’re willing to put all that work into it, maybe you’ve got a legitimate grudge against that grid. If you hate it so much that you’re willing to go to all the effort to do this, other people probably feel the same way as well.”
        Wow. You might want to reconsider that part. Virtual worlds are flooded with people with social and psychological issues, and in many cases it’s good therapy and helps. In other cases, every little “injustice” (read: “didn’t get their way”) just winds them up more. Some of those folks are known to go to great extremes. They make it their life’s work to harass people who they perceive (incorrectly) to have wronged them in some way. All grid owners will encounter these folks sooner or later. The grids that have been around the longest probably have 2 or 3 of them (or more). It only takes one to flood a survey with crap and pollute it to the point where the results are tainted and spoiled. For you to only consider that this grudge may be legitimate, or that they “speak for the people” is frankly misguided and ill-conceived, and throws the legitimacy of the survey into question.

        “But here’s another way to look at it. Instead of spending all that time and energy making some other grid look bad, spend all that effort improving your own grid. Create content, events, mentor programs — stuff that would make residents happy.”
        You could practice this yourself. Ask the survey folks positive questions, such as “which grid is your favorite?” Reject survey answers that are all 1’s or mostly 1’s and 2’s. Whatever. Do something positive, anything positive. Ask for people to pick their *favorite* grid and then explain why it is. That immediately filters out the haters trying to skew results, as well as the sociopaths and grid stalkers.

        • I second that – ask people to pick their favourite grid and then questions like ‘which of these in order do you feel it offers best ‘ — community, entertainment, value, stability… That sort of thing. That would really put out some good info about why people love their home. – in the pic i included in my post below you see that the person voted on a grid that they are no longer in, and rated it as lowly as possible, rather than choosing their current home grid and rating it well. That’s what sorts of things go on in these polls, normally people just don’t post it publicly.

        • I was hoping one of my comrades would speak up for us, but since none have as of yet, and being a bona-fide member of the Bi-National Weekend Warriors who Excellently and Efficiently get Exasperated (Bweee) about the continuing rudeness and outright libelous words such as this. The slander is appalling and no civilized person would ever say such things. Comments such as this break multiple International laws, several Universal Laws, some local laws, and, obviously, several speeding tickets.

          We, the Psychotics, demand reparations! We will not be trifled with anymore! We demand to be given equality among all free peoples (and some slave populations). We demand an end to lobotomies! We will not be silenced. We are the 183%!!

          Jim said, “Virtual worlds are flooded with people with social and psychological issues, and in many cases it’s good therapy and helps. In other cases, every little “injustice” (read: “didn’t get their way”) just winds them up more. Some of those folks are known to go to great extremes. They make it their life’s work to harass people who they perceive (incorrectly) to have wronged them in some way.”

      • Anonymous

        Here’s the thing: I do not like grids and I especially do not like a particular well-known grid that was down for several months last year. I keep a stripped down avi for hypergating around and chatting with the few people I stay in touch with. My negative responses were nonetheless an accurate expression of my grid experience, and this is the only grid I have had anything at all to do with.

  • Michael Timeless

    Maria
    My only question about the survey is the fact that we are focused only on one grid with mentions of the others. Personally I spent time in 3 grids on an almost equal footing for different reasons. I use Second Life as a touchstone to see what is current. I used InWorldz because it has amazingly social people, but I use Kitely to hone building skills because it has very cheap land and allows me the luxury of multiple sims at reasonable costs. I believe the Hypergrid cannot at this time be a single grid show.

    • Michael — If you know both Kitely and InWorldz well enough to rate them, go ahead and file two ballots. Just please mention in the comments that you are doing this, and why, so they don’t get deleted.

    • Adam01time

      for building skills just down load the opensim run it login as local host it is free.

    • I agree. It would be better to choose your top 3 grids from a list, and then be asked a series of questions about each grid and your levels of enjoyment for each. I actually am right with you on this one.. SL as touchstone, IW for main home, social and stability, Kitely for the inexpensive and well maintained regions for creating.

  • I wrote in the Hyperverse as I vote for all things related to hyper gridding. I have no commercial interests and thus not the impetus to shill for those. That’s a good thing so don’t delete it Lawrence, you are getting a bit heavy-handed lately-)

  • It has come to my attention that a comment that has since been deleted some found to be disparaging of The Great Canadian Grid.

    So I would like to apologize and say that was not my intent, and in point of fact the GCG has several residents whom I like as well as my best OS friend, Sunbeam Magic and her hubby, the wonderful AAcme Fall.

    AS well, GCG is in the Hyperverse and I like all things hypergrid enabled. It is a very good thing the GCG as well as others of the previously closed type of grid have joined it.

    Live free and prosper!! (and pretend you see me doing the Doctor Spock hand thing)

    • Adam01time

      Oh come on Minethere your just cheap. GCG has good people and a good devel team. But do not blow smoke. Those are the same IP’s that gave you a hard time in IW. you never do all your home work. That said Roddie does a great job. as for the low cost good for people that need that. But you really need to do your home work. Or is this your latest little promo.

      problem is you need to stick with something that build character and integrity commitment . or you can have a walmart amazon mentality.

      Thank god HB at least stay the course. Which way is the wind blowing miney.

      The moment you say something is better than another you split your fan base or customers. leave opinions to jerks like me that are on a mission. Jelly fish.

    • Roddie Macchi

      No worries Minethere…i don’t really think it was pointed at you as much as it was the reply that was attached to it ;)…lol…I have to admit though…besides all the huss and fuss about this survey…I think I looked at it twice…lol…and it was my good friend Terry that pointed it out to me how we were doing. I am blessed with a great grid in my eyes…two great people who also help us alot…Linda Kellie now…Terry Ford…the rest of my team are my residents. I don’t know how to explain it..but The GCG team is our residents…every single person that comes into our grid gets some kind of help from everyone who happens to be online…that’s an amazing community…one you don’t take for granted. And we’re simple peoople lol…We just want a nice stable relaxed grid to call home and have friends over and throw partys lol. Its how it should be. Anyways I don’t want to sound like I’m at a lecture lol…I am happy to see how well the results are going but it really doesn’t matter if you win or lose…As long as the grid owners residents are happy in the world where they are…thats all that truly matters.

      Cheers!…:)

      • Thank you Roddie. I really didn’t want it to become a bid deal or anything, but I had some behind the scenes conversations and when I have those and they make sense, I can do no better than to take it and use it.

        The comment was only one in many I have made here (to much of lol) and only pinged my radar and cause me some consternation that I wanted to make sure and clear up.

        Yes, I have no control over other people’s comments and I have no control over people who play the flagging system/moderation/alts game here…but in this matter there was more onus on it just being a simple error that I didn’t even think would cause any issues, but did.

        It happens-)

        Frankly I think you have taken on a big job there and it is prone to being played with all sorts of drama. As I told someone else, if I were to run a grid (which I never, ever will…lol) I would not have it commercial and it would be just beauty all over.

        The over commercialism that some people and grids like is to me a very corrupting influence and pretty much all major drama comes from it.

        That isn’t to say I have any issues with individual hypergrid enabled grids who do it, but that I have seen first hand how it corrupts otherwise decent people, and several years ago, when I was blind to most of OpenSim, I even participated in it.

        The over commercialism has caused an un-ceasing need to continue to work on getting people in those grids, to get content into those grids, and infighting among people even within one grid.

        So I think you are doing a great job from all I hear and lots of people are coming in due to that.

        And I wouldn’t sweat the commerce, if it comes, that is icing, if not, there is the free Metaverse whom I already imagine you have seen great things in-)

        Just please never turn into a grid owner who lies to the residents and customers, the ripple effect of that is downright insane!…(see some of the other comments to see it in action…)

        • Roddie Macchi

          Oh i don’t believe our grid is commercial…on the contrary…most here if you ask them love that it feels like home..and it is that feeling that I love on a grid…as do most…if big creators come here then great!…but I don’t need to explain it…I’ll let the peeps in world do that 😉

      • Surveys are always skewed. I only look at the Comments by members section to see the love (or hate) that people have for any particular grid.

      • Sunbeam Magic

        ♥ I missed the thread but no worries… I think the total survey was a smashing success and a lot of work and planning by Maria Korolov went in to this. I too am partial to HG grids and don’t understand how closed grids even compare with HG grids lol but …. I see a great future for OpenSim and look forward to making more memories in the future with my heart♥sis, Minetheree and my extended family members who finally came to stay in GCG with me, the Ewry clan 🙂 Long live virtual worldz and fun! HUGGLES PS. a special congratz to Nara’s Nook and Tangle who hold a special place in my heart! ♥♥♥

        • I will say this in my best Bell’s Palsy voice with half my facial muscles drooping (uh? look it up folks…it’s just life) “heartsis!!!

          I have to look this over later to better understand it-))”

      • Jamie Wright

        Like I said earlier about the Nara’s Nook comment, not all “content” is material. I think the content that matters is the community you build. GCG has the most community spirit I’ve ever seen in a grid (and I’ve been in a lot of them). If somone asks for help in chat, they’re often bombarded with IMs, landmarks and offers because we have so many folks who want to help new members have the best possible start and experience. It’s really hard to answer a survey in categories sometimes because some of this cannot be categorized. There are a lot of really great grids out there. I think one thing this survey does do is dispel the notion that the OpenSim is dwindling.

  • The “Number” of surveys submitted simply shows the specific grid’s ability to get their users to come and fill out the form.
    The more users we can get over here to fill out the survey, the more accurate the “averages” will be in the end.

    So let’s get ’em all over here! 🙂

  • Mark Stanton

    Waki this survey is based on popularity not how big or how long a grid has been around. I own a grid also and I’m not disappointed or complaining that my grid isn’t listed. It’s because not a lot of people know about my grid and yes its a struggle. We all work hard to get the word out for our grid but even that isn’t enough at times.

    • Bryan French

      We don’t even bother anymore. Our grid is far to busy creating content not only for ourselves but for OpenSim. We only learned of the survey 2 days before it ended because we simply don’t have time to read Hypergrid Business and make a campaign to send hordes of people to fill out a survey. I doubt the bulk of our users ever heard of Hypergrid Business.

      • Bryan — I sent out an email to every grid owner in my database right when I first posted the survey. I have you listed with a gmail address — is that not working anymore?

  • looking good for Mobius Grid :3 though i noticed 2 voters for us put just mobius instead of mobius grid XD.

    • there are several instances in which people spelled their write-in grid names in all sorts of weird ways. Tangle, in particular, suffers from this!
      don’t worry, I’ll fix it. 🙂

      — Maria

      • wasn’t upset XD we use Mobius & Mobius Grid interchangeably so its kinda me & my staffs fault :3

  • Congrats to all!
    Now we see some of the issues we need to work on if we didn’t already know about them. Thank you to all who participated.

    • yay dwg :D, ty butch for making a awesome grid 😀 you been doing a super awesome job with it.

  • This is where this poll kind of loses me. A person looks at these results, sees that InWorldz has a content rating of only 4.4 while many of the grids with nothing but free items rate higher. This poll isn’t saying ‘Nara’s Nook has better content than InWorldz’ — it is saying, out of 149 people that polled as InWorldz residents, the average content rating was 4.4 — and out of the 10 (? not sure how many voted from NN) that polled as Nara’s Nook residents rated their content as 4.9. … What is the problem with that? Well we know InWorldz has more merchants than ANY other Grid in this survey. It has more events. It has more items.. However a LOT of InWorldz residents come from SL and don’t even venture out into OpenSim to see what kind of content other grids have in comparison to InWorldz.. I think it needs to be stressed that is how the residents of each grid see their grid and isn’t like a real comparison rating where someone takes a product and compares it to multiple other products on an item to item merit. …..

    That all being said, I’m sad to see such a low community rating for Kitely, and surprised by that result (and the content result), as I find both of those to be strong points for Kitely. I am also confused about ‘Technology’ how a grid like InWorldz that has really great innovations, server stability etc could have ranked so low. However in the general scheme of things, they were all within a few points of each other and I think there are lots of great choices for people depending on their needs

    • Jamie Wright

      Not all “content” is in the form of material goods made of prims etc. Nara’s Nook has content that is story building and it’s quite a dynamic group of writers that support each other. I can completely understand why Nara’s users rate that very highly.

  • Jonathan Thomas

    If DreamNation wasn’t mentioned in the “other” option by its’ userbase, then that is a failure on behalf of the users of DreamNation to either not have participated or just not known about it. That’s not the writer’s fault, hell we at Mobius had to include our name ourselves.. it wasn’t there by default.

    • Jon has a point. with what over 600+ grids its to much to place on the survey. It isn’t biased if your grid & our isn’t listed. I feel this survey is to help all grid’s to see where to improve there capabilities. While me & my staff at Mobius are happy with our scores we are using them to see where we can improve for our users. Also as Maria said larger the grid the more diverse opinions from its users. Look at OSGrid, if i remember correctly it is the largest of all of us user base & land wise. yes it is a testing ground for the OpenSimulator code they scored low, and had a large amount of votes. so being on the main list is nice but yeah too many grids to list which is why the fill in box labeled “other grid” was there. So i don’t think this is a biased survey.

  • Alex Ferraris

    Good work! Congrats all!

  • I am very proud of my residents and as a grid owner it is very nice to see what they think of the grid and of us. Thank you TanGLe Grid Family. BTW Tangle is spelled (write very slow) TanGLe Grid. smiles.

    • I just explained the capitalization issue to someone else with an odd company name — at HB, we use AP style. That means, unless the letters each mean something and are sounded out, they get lower-cased. So IBM is IBM, but ASUS gets written Asus. Yahoo is officially YAHOO! but very few people outside the company write it that way. Sorry!

  • Walter Balazic

    Thank you Littlefield Family for your kind comments and support of your home. We couldn’t be happier with the wonderful community on our grid, and the grid is what it is because of the people who live there everyday.

  • Rene

    I treat polls like this one as secondary snapshot data to help add color and a human perspective to the more accurate but somewhat dry numbers like monthly unique logins, or concurrency or landmass land-chunk (region) counts. It is a way to glean why the otherwise dry metrics are moving in one direction or another. The poll could help predict future changes in the overall metrics of the grids.