Power surge takes out AviWorlds

The welcome region on the formerly-recently-relaunched AviWorlds grid.

It didn’t take long at all.

It was less than three weeks ago that Alexsandro Pomposelli announced that AviWorlds was back up and running — from his garage.

The much-troubled grid is now down again as a result of a power surge, he told Hypergrid Business.

Alexsandro Pomposelli

“My anti-power surge did not work when my place had a power surge,” he said. “And it burned my power supply and that also affected my mother board.”

The sudden crash also corrupted the only copy of the database,Β so that the grid could not be restarted.

“The tech I hired was still working on backing up the database,” he said.

However, the individual region files are still intact, he said.

Pomposelli blamed previous problems at AviWorlds on vendors, business partners, and employees.

This time, the fault lay with higher powers, he said.

“Everything was running beautifully until the Gods decided to surge my place,” he said. “Gee,Β what else next? An alien cow comes from planet Moooo and takes my server away?”

In addition to uncounted short-term outages — literally uncounted, since I haven’t counted them — AviWorlds had officially shut down nine times over the past few years. This was the grid’s tenth incarnation.

In a Facebook post today, Pomposelli promised that this current outage is just temporary, and the grid will be back up in May.

When he announced the latest incarnation of the grid earlier this month and promised to give away 1,000 free regions, many OpenSim experts counseled against running a grid out of his garage, with one person even specifically warning about power outages.

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Maria Korolov is editor and publisher of Hypergrid Business. She has been a journalist for more than twenty years and has worked for the Chicago Tribune, Reuters, and Computerworld and has reported from over a dozen countries, including Russia and China. Follow me on Twitter @MariaKorolov.

54 Responses

  1. netinterprizes@yahoo.com' Alex Ferraris says:

    oh come on! LOL…I knew it..LOL…
    Yes it is my fault I did not have a data base back up done before this happened. I was backing up the files and regions but the DB was still being implemented.

    Anyway lesson learned. I am rebuilding the ANTI POWER SURGE and also I am learning how to back up data bases because I had already hired someone to back it up but he did not get to it and this happened.


    • shelbymoonlight@gmail.com' Linda Kellie says:

      Better luck next time Alex. I would strongly suggest that the next time you do a grid that you tell NOBODY about it until you have everything in place and the database backup going and everything else taken care of that could possibly go wrong. I say this because people like Maria will be super quick to jump on you at every mistake and lets face it….. you’ve had a lot.

      • jessicarandomme@gmail.com' Jessica Random says:

        Sorry you have such bad luck Alex – no-one can say its for lack of trying! I agree with Linda though, don’t tell us next time until its running as you want it. You KNOW people will jump on it when you open again. I have no ill feeling toward you but I know myself I will jump on it too.

        Make sure your backups are ALL working before you let anyone on – database backups should not be an issue and should be at least as easy to set up as region backups.

        Verify these yourself. It doesn’t matter if you employ someone to do these for you – but insist on SEEING the backup files – and SEEING them being restored to validate they are as expected. Visually check that these are set up to backup to a schedule you want and check that these files are being generated correctly over a several day period. Backup your backup configuration!

        The system may have been taken out by dirty power – but power conditioning means nothing without the backups in place first. If they were, this would be a problem still. It would cost you replacement hardware – but you could be back up and running in days/weeks with only a small loss (few hours) in data.

        I also know you know all of this – but just don’t cut those corners next time. It’s something most of us have done at least once in our time – but that’s where you learn and don’t let it happen again.

        • netinterprizes@yahoo.com' Alex Ferraris says:

          Yes my problem was that I didnt know how to back data base and I was waiting for someone else to do it for me but that person did not get to it before this thing happened.
          So I am studying myself and I did post online that I will not open the grid back up until MAY. I am giving myself time to learn data base back ups so I dont need to rely on a third party. Not blaming the third party it was just bad luck.. I did back up the regions and files tho…That is something I did myself and I am proud of ME…! he he

          • fonsecaloffpt@yahoo.com' Carlos Loff says:

            Since you have so much exoerience in thevworkds managment part, have you ever considered just buying a dedicated server service like the one I purchased from Digi ou purchasing a whole grid service from a well know hoster ? I know your margins to make money may decrease by hiring an outsource but think about the huge ammount of money you save by not having to pay a team, and no headakes managing them ? Maybe you bills even get reduced overall and time is money – The Grid Provider does al the “dirty work”, and you focus your sweat and blood in stuff you do well, gathering people, creating and runing worlds

          • netinterprizes@yahoo.com' Alex Ferraris says:

            Hi Carlos
            I have employed opensim hosting companies before and I had huge problems with them. I prefer to have my own equipment now and be independent.
            I do see what you saying though dont get me wrong.
            I also have realized that most data center where these opensim hosting companies get their SERVERS from only offer servers with 1 disk and 1 raid disk.
            I have found out that having multiple disks in 1 server makes it a lot more powerful in terms of processing the regions. Each disk takes care of only a certain number of regions meaning your regions are not going to be depending only in 1 disk for all the writing.
            I found out about this when I was talking to JOE BUILDER and he was explaining to me that his servers had multiple disks. He kept data base and robust in one, certain regions in another and so on… A light bulb appeared right on top of my head then…

            So in terms of equipment I am building a very strong group of servers that regular data centers do not offer. My grid’s regions will not be fighting for the disk attention because they have their own disk giving them full attention. I already had AV1 running with multiple disks and it was a success! No lag. The grid ran smoothly and very efficiently.
            But in order to have that working you do need a powerful processor also. Like 8 core or 16 core. Lots of ram too.

            I am getting there Carlos.

          • shelbymoonlight@gmail.com' Linda Kellie says:

            I know you’ve tried hosting services before and weren’t satisfied. I don’t know a lot about them to be honest. I can tell you that I agree with Carlos though about Digiworldz. Terry Ford has proven since 2007 in OpenSim that he knows his stuff. And he is honest. So if he can’t do something that you need he won’t blow smoke. He’d just tell you.
            I do understand the need to be your own boss (so to speak) and have control over everything. That means you have a lot of learning to do. I’d rather outsource than learn lol. Whatever you do I would say just don’t give up. That’s the one major thing you have going for you that will eventually lead you to success I think.

          • netinterprizes@yahoo.com' Alex Ferraris says:

            awwww…Thank you Linda! I do appreciate what you said. Thanks I really do!

            My business module really requires me to have freedom to have as many servers as I need. I am going to be offering free regions to everyone. I am not going to be making any money on it. At least not in the beginning.
            So that is something I need to do build myself.
            I also enjoy building these powerful machines and see them come to life! Its a passion! lol…

            And yes. I need to do my homework. I need all in place before it goes officially online. I just never thought I would have a power surge this bad right before we started backing the DB up. ha ha ha…I am going crazy….If you see my space where I work and how I dress to work on these things you would think I am a MAD scientist…!I just dont have the white hair sticking up he he

            Maybe Max Luthor ! ha ha ha

          • butch.arnold@digiworldz.com' Butch Arnold says:

            Just an observation….
            The money you are investing in hardware, internet connections, surge equipment, tech help, and UPS systems would have to be quite large.
            For the systems you’ve described, you’ve had to have already spent at least a couple of thousand dollars, not to mention the monthly costs for electric and internet service.

            Even if you were “rent” servers from a data center, most of what you’ve invested in already comes as part of the deal.
            So if you spend just $65/mo for a cheap ovh server, you already have a faster internet connection, power surge protection, and usually a generator backup.

            If you’ve already spent $2000 for the equipment you have, you could have used that money to pay for a cheap ovh server for almost 3 years.

            The other thing you aren’t thinking about…
            As you build your equipment, using the best parts you can afford, in a year or 2 most of that hardware will be considered “Out Of Date” and “Slow” compared to what would be available then.

            If you’re worried about having as many server as you need…. well, OVH is a pretty large company and to be honest, I don’t think in the near future your needs will exceed what they are capable of delivering.

            Investing in your own hardware and other equipment in hopes of running your own mini data center is a bad idea IMO.
            You don’t have the resources the big data centers do.
            You don’t have the even the basic infrastructure they have, network protections, or IT/Hardware experience.

            I’m not a big fan of the OVH network.. I think their hardware isn’t bad, but I’ve had multiple bad experiences wit their network, but for the price of just $65/mo you can have a server with all the basics you need already in place.

            For the approx. $2000 in Equipment I’m guessing you’ve already spent, you could have paid for many months worth of quality hosting for your grid without fear of a power surge taking you down again.

            From a business perspective, “Renting” your servers make much better sense because you can write that off each year, but investing in your own equipment would probably be considered a capital expense which would have to be depreciated over time.

            My stance is there is no way you investing your money in equipment and local services can compare to what you can get from a professional data center and any “True” data center is going to be able to provide you with more than enough servers to meet your needs.

            I think it’s great you keep trying.. and with each failure I hope you take away some valuable lessons from the school of hard knocks, but just like I tell my kids.. sometimes it’s better to listen to the advise of those who have already blazed the trail than to waste your time and money duplicating mistakes you don’t have to make.

            There’s a reason data centers exist, and there’s a reason people use them.

            Keep plugging away, eventually you might find the right combination, or you can sit down and think about the path you are traveling and see if it really, really, really makes good business sense.

            DigiWorldz owns 19 of our servers, but we lease many more.
            Even our “Owned” equipment is “CoLocated” at a professional Data Center as they have the network and power requirements we need to remain stable.

            Running your own servers are ok for a “Hobby” grid, but for anything where you remotely want to have a level of stability needed to offer services to paying customers, or even free customers who expect their builds won’t go “Poof” in the night, you should go with a professional data center.

            Remember, You reputation is the most valuable thing you have and the cost of maintaining it is simply to make good choices.

          • netinterprizes@yahoo.com' Alex Ferraris says:

            Yes well said. Give me a link so I can look at what u offer please.

          • fonsecaloffpt@yahoo.com' Carlos Loff says:

            Very importante about Digiwoldz, I hope no one finds this comment as Spam, I do not have anything to do with Digiworldz (besides having one of their dedicated servers) – They solved any problem I had very very fast, although in almost one year there were not serious issues at all – They are fast and I often erase lands and create new ones and they fix those requests in few hours, sometimes, believe me, few minutes – The minute any user knows you are based on Digi and their inventory and backups are in Digi, people will flock to your projects as long you still keep them interesting as in the past – And you will SLEEP so so so PEACEFULLY – Give it a try, start with just one dedicated server – 150$ if you purchase before March, no setup fee, as many lands and prims you want, as longe the server can handle it – after 1 or 2 months make your won judgment – Build Worlds for Us not garage machines

          • butch.arnold@digiworldz.com' Butch Arnold says:

            lol.. thanks Carlos.. Might have to hire you! πŸ™‚

          • netinterprizes@yahoo.com' Alex Ferraris says:

            Butch where is that link I want to see what you offer please. But be warned. AviWorlds is a very busy place , high traffic demand .

          • butch.arnold@digiworldz.com' Butch Arnold says:

            Hi Alex.. I sent the link.. but they haven’t approved it yet

          • butch.arnold@digiworldz.com' Butch Arnold says:

            just go to the digiworldz website.. digiworldz dot com and visit the store link.. or put in a support ticket.. I’ll be glad to help you.

          • iidripdiamonds@gmail.com' iidripdiamonds diamond says:

            Well said Carlos. Digiworldz is awsome Terry is very patient and he always responds and fixes or checks things fast. His famous line is failure is not an option and he has giving me hope and running my grid smoothly I am exremely happy to be with them. I love DigiWorldz.

          • shelbymoonlight@gmail.com' Linda Kellie says:

            I love to see you being so open minded. That will take you far with your projects and with your interactions with people in general. It’s something I struggle with myself daily.

          • butch.arnold@digiworldz.com' Butch Arnold says:

            Thanks for the kind words Linda.

          • fonsecaloffpt@yahoo.com' Carlos Loff says:

            As you saw and felt right into your bones, problems also arise from independent investment in hardware and teams, you are a huge example… OS already allows much land and prims – People Care about performance but since they are up to ling term plans they care first and mostly about stability and credibility – Less prims or les scripts are all a matter of fair pricing, credibility and stability on the other hand are worth many pounds in gold – I respectfully insist, if not for the hassle, at least for credibility, a treasure you defnitly must regain on an undisputable manner, and urgently – friendly suggestion

          • butch.arnold@digiworldz.com' Butch Arnold says:

            Thank you for the “Plug” Carlos! πŸ™‚

          • fonsecaloffpt@yahoo.com' Carlos Loff says:

            Deeply deserved by your own blood and sweat

      • netinterprizes@yahoo.com' Alex Ferraris says:

        Yes Linda thank you.
        I am studying hard to learn the data base back ups.. I did do the back up for oars and files myself which is an improvement already. I am giving it till MAY so I can come back with everything in place and I wont need to depend on third party help.

    • fonsecaloffpt@yahoo.com' Carlos Loff says:

      Like you I see the potential of Virtual Worlds and like you I dream high, imaginig things done and peoole already enjoying them, but sometimes we must think twice, start small and grow slowly and steady – although ambition and dreams are essential to make a difference – My dream life would be making a living iust of virtual worlds business, not as a grid owner but as a place and community manager – too much blood and sweat went out around you, and I dont take sides, too much blurry ans Josh was always good to mr – You know, there is one ingredient you have Alex, fundamental to success in OS, you are not in it just for the coins, behind your desk watching, you enjoy being inworld and experiencing all aspects of it – So if you bring to the table some humble steady growing plan, you just may succeed all the way up

    • 1derful61@gmail.com' 1derworld says:

      If you decide a hosting company do your homework first. There is alot of over sellers out there.

  2. mike.dickson@rivendellnh.com' Mike Chase says:

    Maybe the trick would be to stop trying to make a business out of something you have no business taking money for. If you want to learn then build a grid for fun and learn. Constantly taking money for something where you really don’t understand yet how to provide uptime for the services is only going to damage your reputation and reduce your market. If you need to learn then do that.

    • netinterprizes@yahoo.com' Alex Ferraris says:

      Before u accuse me of doing something make sure u read up on it.
      I always gave free regions and free money.
      I did not charge any money. I gave almost 230 free regions and thousands of free money to every body.

    • netinterprizes@yahoo.com' Alex Ferraris says:

      Yes I understand that.
      My service is free for everybody I do not charge any moneys. πŸ™‚

  3. iidripdiamonds@gmail.com' iidripdiamonds diamond says:

    Awww sorry to hear that but Alex will be back he always does never give up Alex.

  4. netinterprizes@yahoo.com' Alex Ferraris says:

    After exchanging several emails with Butch I have decided to go with DigiWorldz hosting. I will be working on this new venture with Butch in the next few weeks.
    AviWorlds will offer self host regions
    Free hosted regions
    and plus other cool functionalities.

  5. tonylestr@gmail.com' Tony Lester says:

    Sometimes choosing to not be the technician is the best choice, you have more time to do other things. Good Luck

  6. miltonts@gmail.com' miltont1 says:

    Death always has a reason, lol.
    But we need to take care of health …