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  1. uk1and@hotmail.com'

    16. Don’t piss off your customers.

    1. da.tonyhayward@gmail.com'

      ROFL! damn thats what I been doing wrong lol.

  2. netinterprizes@yahoo.com'

    Never give up!

  3. rob@roblindman.net'

    Considering the chatter on G+ about how one of the two developers for OpenSim is living on cat food I don’t think there is much of a future here. There’s a high point in marketing… ‘if you want bugs fixed in OpenSimulator, send Ubit cat food’.

  4. junior.tribe@gmx.com'

    ‘To organize the documentation, to create a roadmap,’ yep. Or keep on with the fizzy sugar water, mechanically reclaimed animal based burgers and… oh yes other ‘things’. Insert your own take on things there.
    Mind you, the mouse has a point about cat food, always welcome.

  5. services@farworldz.com'

    Given all the jokes about Cat food sounds like someone doesn’t an like any Opensim developer getting some financial support from the User community. I joined others and donated and I will again, and I do hope Ubit has enough money to feed his cat and stay connected with a decent computer which was the real issue. We in the Opensim community need to give support to developers that continue to work on this great open source project for free – especially as people running commercial grids make money off it and other that forked the code do so as well.

    1. maria@korolov.com'

      Sounds like a perfect time for a GoFundMe campaign — is there one set up yet?

      1. maria@korolov.com'

        Oh, and this is a perfect example of a marketing opportunity for a new commercial grid: announce that you’re sponsoring Ubit, post updates about how he’s doing and what he’s working on, help recruit other volunteers to help him out, and recruit other sponsors to provide more funding.

        And this would be much, MUCH better for the community than, say, spamming social media.

        And if folks complain that you’re just doing to get sales, say: “We could have gotten sales by buying ads, or by doing this. At least, by doing this, the money goes towards something useful.” (Because people will complain about everything. If you’re Mother Theresa, people will complain that you’re just in it to reserve your place in heaven. You can’t win.)

        1. maria@korolov.com'

          But now I’m wondering how the whole heaven thing is supposed to work. “Hmm, I see you’ve coveted your neighbor’s ass, 57 times, but you’ve also burned 23 witches. But you burned the witches just to get on God’s good side, so it doesn’t count.” Or is it: “You had doubts about the witch burning but you did it anyway to suck up to God. God likes that. You’re in.”

          1. maria@korolov.com'

            But back to the funding issue: One nice way to set this up would be to offer to match donations. So if someone makes a $5 donation, you match them (up to a certain limit) and each time someone makes a donation and you match it, you share it on social media. This will help create buzz — people will see other folks making donations, and will want to get in on that. And it will also effectively double your fund-raising power.

            Another fundraising opportunity in the same vein is to donate to OSgrid, which is a registered non-profit, ideally around some event or project that would help people get motivated.

        2. services@farworldz.com'

          That is a good point Maria. I think commercial grids could buy into that idea or even have fund raising parties which people are more likely to go to on the Hypergrid. I would be sure to go (time zone permitting) and I WOULD donate for sure! Everyone wins. I think.

          1. services@farworldz.com'

            Yeah, and I’d join you as the paparazzi looking for the best dressed people in town *laughs*

  6. arielle.popstar@gmail.com'

    “Few grids have any memorable characteristics.”
    When I think of Avi-worlds i think of Servers-in-a-Garage! Potential franchise opportunity there. 🙂

  7. tonyanytime247@gmail.com'

    All open sim hosters will FAIL if they do not unite and work together to bring in new people and keep updating the technology. Just fast forward 5 years and the community will be even smaller than it is now. The technology will be too primitive to maintain an audience, everyone will be somewhere else. Put behind the petty content wars and everyone share and grow.

    So here is a plan; Every user, on every hoster has to pay a central fund $1 a month per avatar. 25% goes to marketing, 25% for bug fixes and present version development, 25% to a central Non-profit organization that will provide organization and management, the other 25% will be held for the development of a version 2. OSgrid could have been this. Now others are trying.

    The sad truth is… if you do all this is you may find out there are only about 8000 real OpenSim users. But at $8000 a month, you have something to get some programming going. If you can’t get the people to volunteer $1 a month, then OpenSim is dying of apathy.

    Hate me, disagree with me, fine, but think about the future, and how it will play out if OpenSim as a community doesn’t start acting together.

    1. suzandekoning@icloud.com'

      I agree completely Tony. My issue is that I have been around in open sim to talk with grid owners.. Talking about working together. All grids pay contribution monthly, depending on their size and income etc ( parameters that have to be worked out). No one was interested, except one from the 15 commercial grids I contacted. All those grids are little islands and the competition between them is killing them all. They all shout that we should work together and yet they drop their region prices so other grids have no chance and they them selves have to start fundraising to pay for their their own bills, it is the world upside down if you ask me. I would immediately support your plan, but I also think that a lot of OS users will start shouting around again that all should be free. Well people not even the air you breath is FREE anymore 🙂 Personally I do not like a fundraising thing…. it looks like begging for money, but probably the only way.
      Working together is essential, not only shouting around ‘ We look at OpenSim as one big continent with different countries’ And then turn away when people ask you to work together:(

      1. tonyanytime247@gmail.com'

        I have been around VR for a long time over 20 years. World.com, There, SL, and OpenSim for more years than I remember. 2 years ago may be more now, I looked at funding a New Opensim, some out of my own pocket. I could not even get the developers at the time interested. Their own greed, and want of control did not allow it. Same thing happened with grid owners. Every one wants to profit from this infant technology that is 10 years old. Alot of things have happen in those 10 years good and bad. Now there are few developers left. Hosters are realizing that it is difficult to earn a living in OS and are moving on. If you look at it as a hobby it will fail. But everyone working in different directions does not work. Soon folks like Facebook will take over the VR landscape and the content producers that are tired of the lack of traffic will go there. OS has been given several gifts, SL is a badly run company, some great developers and builders. OS is a amazing ideas, ahead of its time, But we waste it arguing about pennies.

        1. suzandekoning@icloud.com'

          Yes Tony you are right and it is indeed not a hobby. It is costing money and we need to invest and earn money to pay our bills. Therefore it does need a serious approach.

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