How dangerous are IAR exports?

Inventory exports, or IARs, became a heated topic of discussion in Google Plus communities yesterday, with one grid even disabling its IAR exports temporarily as a result.

Much of the debate is due to a misunderstanding of how IAR backups work — and of how thieves steal content.

What is an IAR?

The IAR backups allow users to make personal backups of their inventory files. They can use those backups to restore their inventories in case somethings happens, to move their avatars to another grid, or to share their inventories — or individual folders from those inventories — with other people.

All three of these have legitimate uses. For example, in many countries, any backup made purely for personal use is legitimate, no matter what the license terms on the content are.

Moving content from one grid to another is perfectly fine if it’s content that you have created yourself, if it’s content distributed under CC licenses, or it’s exportable content bought from Kitely .

Distributing IARs is also perfectly fine if, again, you’ve created the content, or the content came with a CC license and you’re distributing in accordance with the license. Linda Kellie has quite a bit of content available in IAR form on

Linda Kellie's clothing is available via IAR file on

Linda Kellie’s clothing is available via IAR file on

Low risks of abuse

Can this technology be abused? Yes.

But the risks of abuse are extremely low, for the following two reasons.

First, you can only export things that are already in your own inventory. That means that if you want to steal commercial content, you have to buy it first. So, at worst, you’re stealing a few items that you’ve already paid for.

Real crooks will take copybot viewers to places that have lots and lots of content and rip it all. That means that they go to shopping malls in Second Life instead of bothering with a couple of pieces of content here and there in OpenSim.

Second, where to sell it? On the hypergrid, the only real sales venue of any significance is the Kitely Market, and they are extremely careful about content theft. The Kitely Market is online, so it’s easy for content creators to check if their stuff has been stolen, and Kitely delays payouts to limit fraud and has other security measures in place, as well.

The best place to sell stolen stuff is, again, Second Life.

Freebie stores in OpenSim have been rapidly switching over to Linda Kellie content or to products made by local creators, to avoid the possibility of content infringement lawsuits. No startup grid has extra money lying around to defend itself from a suit. It would destroy a grid before it even really gets going — the risk is just not worth it. Especially when there’s legitimate content that can be used, instead.

Finally, anyone with a few minutes and a little persistence can set up an OpenSim region on their own computer. That gives you full console access to everything on that region. If you teleport in and put stuff down, you can save it to your hard drive, change its perms, do anything you want — you are the grid owner, you have full access to the database and the console.

Scripted content can be stolen

The one big exception to the “low risk” argument above is that of scripted items. Copybots typically won’t steal the scripts — just the outward appearance.  But if you have the item in your inventory and save the inventory, the script gets saved, as well.

There are two main things that content creators can do to protect scripted content in OpenSim.

First, they can avoid distributing it on open grids. Unfortunately, that means that they can’t sell exportable versions on the Kitely Market, because it doesn’t discriminate between other grids. You’re either delivering to all other grids, or none of them.

Second — and this is the option that I recommend — is that they switch to server-side scripting. By moving key functionality to a server, you’re ensuring that your competitors can’t get their hands on it. Even better, you can run some of the server-side functionality in an OpenSim module that you install on your grid and only on your grid. That means that your customers will have to come back to your grid in order to, say, breed their new pets — because the functions only exist on that one grid, or only on those grids that have purchased a license to your system.

What can grids do to protect their content?

Open grids typically do nothing. That’s why they’re called open grids. Anyone can connect a self-hosted region, which means anyone can do anything they want to the stuff on that region.

Atek is an open grid, like Metropolis, OSgrid, FrancoGrid, Craft, WestWorld, and many others.

This is how those grids work.

Filtered exports are typically implemented by grids who provide their own region hosting and do not allow users to connect regions they run on their own home computers.

One way to filter exports is to check if the item has the export permission turned on, though this code is still experimental. Another way to filter exports is more popular, and that is to check if the item is full perm or your own original creation. Several grids do it this way, including Spellscape.

Kitely has a combination of both — it uses its own export permission, and it also checks for copy and transfer permissions before allowing content to be saved in OAR files or travel via the hypergrid.

Filtered exports allow commercial grids to be open to the hypergrid, to offer IAR and OAR exports and still protect proprietary content.

However, this is only effective when people can’t connect self-hosted regions. Export filters only work when users don’t have access to their consoles.

Does that mean that open grids should not try to filter exports at all?

Of course not. As many pointed out, “locks are for honest people.”

Filtered exports serve to remind people about the license terms of their content. Yes, the crooks will be able to circumvent that by connecting their own regions and going into the databases, the OpenSim server management console, or by giving themselves God powers. But crooks have many tools available to them already for stealing content. They’ll steal stuff one way or another anyway.

Filtering can hurt usability

The one downside to filtering content is that it can make things difficult for some legitimate applications.

Say you’ve built a big object and one tiny piece of it is not full-perm. It’s a little piece that someone handed to you and forgot to fix the permissions on, or that you picked up in a freebie store. Now you can’t export that whole object until you track down that little piece and replace it.

Or say you’ve worked on a project as part of a group. Different pieces of it now have different creators listed, some of whom may have gone on to other things so can’t come back and fix the perms — and now you can’t export the entire build.

This happens particularly frequently with educational builds, where students may be used to do a lot of the building, they forget to set the permissions or deed the objects appropriately, and now the teacher can’t save the build or share it with other classes.

OpenSim permissions don’t distinguish between employees creating things under work-for-hire licenses for their employers, and content purchased from outside creators. By default, the intellectual property created by employees on company time should belong to the company that pays for it. Instead, it’s attributed to the individual employee’s avatar.

As a result, filtering exports may dissuade groups, schools, and companies from using a particular grid in favor of another open grid without the filters. Or they may decide to run their own grid, instead, where they have full control over everything.

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Maria Korolov

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55 Responses

  1.' Geir Nøklebye says:

    I’d say OARs are more risky from a content theft perspective.

    IARs mostly contain items you have obtained through some kind of purchase process (free or paid for) or have been given.

  2.' Geir Nøklebye says:

    Not sure what you mean by server side scripting because all LSL scripts only runs on the server, there is nothing that executes in the client. – Which is why they cannot be copybotted.

    With an updated viewer and the latest versions of opensim, No Mod scripts sold out of Kitely arrives as No Mod scripts on the receiving grid such as OSGrid and if exported to IAR from there, even via a standalone, the arrive as No Mod in the IAR and can still not be copied.

    • I mean, on an external server. A totally separate machine that your scripts would interact with via HTTP Requests.

      Or OpenSim modules, which, in effect, create brand-new commands that your scripts can use — that will only work on regions running that module.

      These scripts run entirely on back-end servers that you control.

      It like…. like the difference between JavaScript and PHP. JavaScript you can see just by looking at the source code of a website. PHP runs on the server, and all you see is the output.

      •' Geir Nøklebye says:

        Well, for the scripts that makes things happen in-world, they need to run on the server the avatar is currently being serviced by and there is no replacing this unless you want to rewrite the entire script engine. I don’t think you want that 🙂

        For supporting scripts that deals with websites, money transactions, support services and what have you, these can of course placed on whatever infrastructure you see fit and most secure for your need. But anything that moves the avatar or makes things happen in-world stays on the OpenSim server that runs the region the avatar is in at any time.

        • Say, for example, you have a script that grows an object. You can calculate it’s age locally, or you can call out for the age, to a central server. One advantage of using a central server for that is that your animal will continue to age even when the region is down (say, on Kitely).

          Obviously, checking in with a central server will introduce significant delays, so you don’t want to use this for anything time-sensitive — like, you pointed out, motion scripts.

          But farming-type games would do well to check in, as would role playing quest management games.

      •' Samantha Atkins says:

        OMG. The http requests are slow and limited in SL and opensim. This would be even more a disaster than LSL scripting already is.

    •' Adam Time says:

      Well lets test it. I really want it to work real bad. so let me know when you you want to test it. and after it is on my hard drive then placed on my standalone. then exported. Because I have tested that. And I am now able to see the scripts and modify them. this is in 8.1.0 dev. once it is in my inventory and I do in command line the IAR backup of my inventory it is now mine. simple as copy paste to keep a copy for later use. I really want it to work do not get me wrong I love to bring products to the market.

      •' Geir Nøklebye says:

        Let me give you an example.

        I purchased an Item from Kitely: Heart – Wild Tall Oaks – Summer Greens – P4 and it was delivered to OSgrid, with an Acquired date of Monday 26 May 2014. The protection of the delivered item and content was Mod, Copy, No Trans. This was originally delivered to my regions on OSGrid, so it was never in my asset server.

        When OSGrid came up, I copied out my inventory to an IAR, and now imported it to XMIR grid.

        The protections are still intact as Mod, Copy, No Trans, the Acquired date is still Monday 26 May 2014, but the difference is that the Creator is set to me. To change the content protection I’d have to edit the database directly.

        If I look in the Inventory Items in the database the item has the creatorID of 57a02c89-7833-48ac-99ab-7a7e4f8b37a7;;Lilith Heart (UUID modified for this post).

        So the system still knows who the creator is after one direct delivery + one IAR transfer.

        It might be that all viewers will not respect this information and let you take over the item, but then restrict your access to the grid to those viewer that do. This was tested using Singularity.

        •' Adam Time says:

          That sounds great when I have time will look at doing that with a rezzed oar and see how it goes. Great work.

        •' Isis Ophelia says:

          Geir that is good to read that IAR items keep the original permissions. But what is with OARs made with the items that came with that IAR, will they still keep the original permissions when the oar is restored/imported in another grid?

          •' Geir Nøklebye says:

            I can’t tell you for sure, but my impression is that export / import of OARs will to a large degree cancel all permissions on an object that is rezzed in the region you export. I have not done any testing of this the last few months, but the CMT switch is supposedly going to help on this.

        • I wonder…if it would be possible for the techhie sorts to actually incorporate the blockchain model as an asset server…that’d solve this problem once and for all…

  3.' Adam Time says:

    This only pertains to people wanting to bring content creators to their sim in order to boost more sales of sims and grids.

    As you may know that as we speak the console I was asked to do a video on 2 months ago. Then finally did for my reasons will be going back up. I really “feel” my opinion. That when a host sells you a grid at a time these tools are essential for any grid owner. They need to be trusted. But on the other hand if you give every user the same admin level as the grid owner this can cause serious issues.
    This creates a conflict of interest an paranoia. I was told by a land owner those tools would be going back into affect after yesterdays meetings. That is fine. But the several people that bought the 32 sims for 84 dollars had hopes of bringing in content creators.
    They are the ones that wanted this issue pushed they wanted atek to limit this type of access. I have many logs and convo’s.
    The truth is the people in power over this own huge regions in SL one has 43 regions of stores. And you tell me they do not understand protecting the creators content. Access is the key word. Why do they not bring their stores here.?

    If you understand copybot viewers you you actually understand they also have limits. when you sell block of sims to people and they come to you and explain what and why and their needs you must be honest with them. Atek never lied to them they said there is the console use it as you need. But any avatar can copy all none copy object and place them on the hard drive.
    If the back up stayed in world then you would only have one issue that is you may have copies of no copy items. But those permissions are still there.
    I have always had sims in osgrid. And many people that have ever been in world most likely have used my work and product.
    There is a reason why we have TOS. And actual tools.
    I am a firm believer in OpenSim and I also believe the avatar should only have to buy a product once for that avatar.
    I believe Kitely does a great service and thank god they took this issue on a long time ago.

    Second part.
    If you host private servers to your host Robust. Then again the content creators must be informed of the situation.
    I did several tests, and let the grid owners know what I was doing in advance. Every grid owner has known in advance my work and what I was doing. Accept the the ones that are squeaky wheels. I get way to many hits from them.
    So I ask you . Why do you not ask the owner of region X in SL to bring all her stores to open sim. Why not she is a CEO of Atek also.
    and head of cloud serve part.
    She expects everyone else to take that chance.
    It’s just a youtube show. OMG

    • Adam —

      I actually did not understand your comment above.

      The “console” you mention — I assume this it Atek’s IAR export function? — similar functionality has been available on ALL open grids since almost the start of OpenSim. Anyone who connects a region to any open grid can access it either through their own OpenSim console, or through that of their hosting provider, if they use a hosting services like Zetamex or Dreamland or Oliveira or CloudServe.

      This is why SOME content creators have avoided open grids in the past — because this functionality has been available. Content creators who believe in DRM and need DRM stick with either completely closed grids (like InWorldz, Avination, Virtual Highway, Island Oasis, etc…) or with grids that filter content (such as Spellscape and Kitely) to ensure that their proprietary content doesn’t end up on the open hypergrid.

      OTHER creators have moved beyond DRM, and are taking a “trust but verify” approach to content sales — they make it as easy as possible for legitimate customers to buy their products and use them, but also keep an eye out on the biggest marketplaces and freebie stores to make sure that their content isn’t being illegally distributed on any significant scale.

    • Frank Corsi says:

      Adam you mix up facts all the time. Cindy aka Chandice is not a CEO of Cloudserve, not ATEK grid. Your facts are again wrong. You are the only used car salesman selling crap you know zero facts about. You like to single out ATEK grid and scare people with your crap, but in reality ATEK grid is not doing anything wrong at all. Open to connect grids have a very valid place in the community, and to save an IAR file is just a part of that same community experience.

  4.' Adam Time says:

    That is very fascinating tool.

  5.' maggiez lockett says:


    • Maggiez —

      If you are a creator and DON’T want your customers to be able to make backups of things they buy from you, then do not distribute your content on open grids.

      The major open grids are, again:

      OSgrid, Metropolis, FrancoGrid, Craft, Atek, and WestWorld.

      Stick with CLOSED grids, like InWorldz, Avination, Island Oasis, and Virtual Highway, and FILTERED grids, like Kitely and Spellscape.

      This has ALWAYS been true for OpenSim. Atek’s IAR export function is nothing new.

      • Also stay away from personal grids, since they’re owned by individuals who can make copies of regions, inventories, or entire grids. Same with group, school and company grids — the schools and companies can make backups of all their content.

        •' maggiez lockett says:


          • Maggiez — I’m still not understanding your point. ALL open grids allow their users to save their IARs. All of them. Not just Atek. And Metropolis also has it on their website:

            And most hosting companies have it on their websites as well, to make it easy for THEIR users.

            This is NOT the same as copybotting. Copybotting is ILLEGAL under the terms of service of ALL grids.

            Saving a personal backup of YOUR OWN inventory or region, is NOT against the terms of service of open grids.

            if you are a content creator, and do not want your customers making backups of your content, then ONLY distribute that content on CLOSED or FILTERED grids.

          •' maggiez lockett says:

            you are correct saving iar not copybotting, until they resell my stuff then it copybotting, but again what saying is if you go other hyper grid /os sim there is not tool on website back iar. i understand if grid owners can do it, but i am on other os grid i have never seen on site to back up my iar

          •' maggiez lockett says:

            you know your self there people will back iar or oar and are truthful, but there is small percent that arent truthful if have tool on website they will abuse it

          •' maggiez lockett says:

            i have no problem if grid owners have only access to back up files. person have sim from which grid owner not atek yes can go in back my stuff, all i am saying i dont think that any user should go on website log in back up iar on main website

          • Maggiez —

            Again, this is a functionality built into OpenSim from day one. If you connect a region to any open grid — and OSgrid, Metropolis, Craft, FrancoGrid, etc… have ways to do it which are pretty easy for anyone to do — then you can save OARs and IARs and have had this ability since the beginning. On some open grids, this is actually a large percentage of users.

            And anyone with a region from any of the major hosting companies has always been able to do it.

            Atek and Metropolis make this feature available to all residents, not just region owners.

            I, personally, think that is very fair. Why should inventory backups only be available to those residents who buy or attach land?

            From your comments, it looks like you think this feature was only available to grid owners before. Yes, it was available to grid owners, but it was ALSO available to ALL REGION OWNERS on any open grid, and ALL RESIDENTS of Metropolis grid.

          • Yes, if you are worried about the small percent of people who will export an IAR or OAR in order to steal content (as opposed to using one of the many faster illegal ways to do it), then you should not distribute your content on any open grid.

            Again, in order to steal content this way, crooks will have to buy it first! Very few crooks will bother buying content when they can steal it instead, for free. Yes, there is some stolen content in OpenSim (grids are getting better at cleaning it out, but some still sneaks in) but it doesn’t get stolen in OpenSim. It gets stolen in Second Life.

          •' Geir Nøklebye says:

            You can copybot entire sim and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it unless you ban viewers. The only thing you cannot copybot are scripts and mesh rigging. Everything else is copied and you have no idea it happens.

            I have banned a few viewer identities on my grid because copybot viewers masquerade as them.

          • Metropolis has a tool for ALL residents:

            Kitely has an OAR export tool for ALL residents.

            Also, Dreamland, Zetamex, Oliveira, and CloudServe have tools for their customers.

          • She’s having a meltdown because she can have her stuff copied via the IAR downloads and the world is ending. Clearly she can’t understand plain English.

            — that wasn’t a shot, by the way…

            She places far, far too much importance on her stuff than the rest of the virtual world community. She probably thinks there’s a child molester on her street corner just waiting to poison candy with knock out drugs to be able to abduct little children.

      •' Baloo Uriza says:

        >If you are a creator and DON’T want your customers to be able to make backups of things they buy from you, then do not distribute your content on open grids.

        If you can view it, you can back it up. Expecting digital sales to be much more than the honor system or DRM to be anything other than a nuisance to paying customers is laughably ridiculous.

      •' Minethere says:

        Is there some reason to expect a closed grid owner to be honest just because they can run a grid up? I know of several people whose OARs were saved due to the value in them to that grid, and made available to the creator later when needed [when they came back to the grid, for example].

        I have never fathomed how some people all of a sudden bestow miraculous honesty and decency towards any grid owner “just because they say so”.

    •' Geir Nøklebye says:

      Look at my posting down the thread how this works if it is set up correctly.

    •' Baloo Uriza says:

      How am I surprised someone who can’t find the Caps Lock key can’t figure out how to sell labor-hours instead of expecting DRM to save them? It bears repeating: If you’re depending on DRM, you don’t have a business model.

    • Frank Corsi says:

      This is a joke.. ATEK Grid is exactly as any open grid. Anyone connecting land can make IAR backups also. Lawsuit threats are not realistic. People can choose where they go and what gird they go on.

      •' Adam Time says:

        Thank you Frank for all those wonderful scripts Yes scripts and all those wonderful things I purchased on your grid. I am now the creator I want to thank you personally for for that wonderful back up tool that should only be used by grid owners. In a mater of 3 minutes the new account was made and I am the creator of a bunch of stuff you made thank you so much Frank your kind heart your such a giving man letting everyone one have admin tools to your grid. full perm all the wonderful stuff I bought and putting it on my hard drive. you truly are a Robin Hood. By the way you are good man I am so glad you gave those people their money back that wanted to leave when they found out about this tool. They had invested bringing content creators in.

        Good of you. Now when the venders that are building your place come to you next time listen. Because they trusted you to make the tools only for admin that means grid owners. Not sim owners. Oh but your open remember so you should have looked at how Tangle Grid did it instead of using them and dumping them.
        Atek is a ghost town. Your an open host what do you need that tool for anyway.

        • Frank Corsi says:

          It proves only that some people like you choose to use the tools provided with opensim to STEAL from others.
          I will be back in your area soon and will have to visit you in person Brent!

        • Frank Corsi says:

          Yes Adam thank you for showing everyone how you can steal from people. What does it prove? What do you gain from attacking me and the opensim community?

        • Frank Corsi says:

          You Purchased them, then you did what the creator allowed you to do with them. This is between you and the creator you purchased the item from. Vendors choose to have land in open grids or choose to stay in SL. No different than OSgrid or any other open grid.

        • Frank Corsi says:

          Your tools are available to sim owners who connect land to an open grid. Atek Grid itself only operates the center 9 regions, and the water around it. the other 1300 regions are added by sim owners who have full access to the opensim

    • ZOMG!!! THE WORLD IS ENDING BECAUSE YOU MIGHT LOSE 14 CENTS FROM COPIES OF THAT SHIRT YOU MADE!!! You should’ve had a better business model…and understood that OpenSim doesn’t play by the same rules as SL. If you want to be anal about your stuff, stay in SL.

      /woops, sorry, end rant now

  6.' Roblem VR says:

    Is it even possible to write an article here without having a go at second life?

    • I don’t mean to be putting down Second Life — I actually have no criticisms of Second Life in this context.

      The reason that Second Life is the preferred target for content thieves is because Second Life has more content than all the other grids combined many times over.

      And while Second Life can’t keep out copybots, neither can anyone else. It’s the eternal problem of all content — at the point where a human can see it or hear it, that’s the point where someone can steal it.

      In fact, Second Life (and other closed grids) actually have an advantage over open OpenSim grids, in that they can better protect scripts.

      • Content Thieves. oooooooh. I mean seriously. There are a scant handful that just continually squawk about this as if it’s the big bad of virtual worlds. This entire issue is the equivalent of the big Poison Halloween Candy fear mongering that basically ruined Halloween for 2 decades…and the real story is one guy tried to kill his own kids and poisoned their pixie sticks…and blamed it on the candy…so these same sorts of crackpots basically came out of te woodwork and wrecked everybody’s fun because they were too scared they’d be poisoned.

        It still goes on to this day…it was never a rampant outbreak of candy poisoning and there’s never been an outbreak of “content theft”…it’s about a dozen SLers who freak out about not being able to make money. The fact that all these grids are catering to them is pitiful. There are far more voices calling foul – and grids ignore them in favor of the whining few.

        They don’t produce enough “content” to warrant major companies building entire business models around them. It’s sad to see virtual world content held hostage by these idiots. It’s even sadder to see bright people such as yourself – and other grid owners – feeding the flames of their little paranoid rantings instead of addressing it and moving on. How much air time to they get? Virtual Worlds were not created in their image exclusively to cater to their desires. Stop giving them the red carpet treatment, tell them to suck it up and hire a lawyer if they’re that paranoid somebody steals or copies their ugly mesh hair.

        /end rant…for now.

  7. Right — there will always be a push-and-pull between what creators want to offer, and want customers want to buy. Customers want the most flexibility, the least DRM, the maximum ease-of-use. Some are willing to pay extra for this.

    Others are willing to compromise on any or all of these issues for a price discount, or for a really cool thing that they really want.

    For example — because my kids were spoiled rotten — when they were of the appropriate age, we had all the video game consoles — the Wii, the X-Box, the Play Station… even though you could play games on the PC, instead. But the cool games, apparently, were on the consoles. Or on the consoles first. Or something. I forget what the reasons were but we HAD to buy the consoles, and then spend $50 a pop for the games.

    But now, as a woman in charge of her own destiny, if a game isn’t available free for the iPhone, I don’t play it. LOL

  8.' Baloo Uriza says:

    It’s 2015 and content designers are still trying to earn pennies off flotsam rather than sell man-hours on commission like real graphics designers? Seriously? I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: If you need DRM, you don’t have a business model.

  9.' Samantha Atkins says:

    It is problematic in the first place to apply to software, to scripts, the same criteria as other content. An object that is scripted and as functionality dependent on the scripting is not at all the same object without it. I would beg people creating exportable objects that have scripts to leave the scripts in place. Indeed decent scripted gadgets and items are the biggest laggard on opensim regions today. We can’t fix this by special casing and limiting scripts.

  10.' Adam Time says:

    TOS is when you buy the product if the creator says no copy then it
    means no copy. I tried to copy my ford pickup truck but Ford Motor
    Company said sorry only we can copy it. When some one says copy no
    transfers in TOS what part of that did you miss. When you transfer the
    product out of the grid to another grid. I like to copy my truck take it
    to another country and use it. Oh yes let my friends use it to. Sorry
    FMC says no. What part of respect do you all miss.

    TOS if you do not like the TOS do not purchase from them.

    If people want to sell to you full perm so be it. IAR once on my harddrive
    and I merge it into my standalone simulator I am the creator now. What
    part of that is open source. the GPL would hang you out to dry. Respect
    the content creators wishes. Here for you all that think just
    because you buy something you can copy it when it is no copy we have a
    word for you copybots. plane and simple READ THE TOS.

  11.' Adam Time says:

    Here is the fun thing to look at. Joe Blow or Josh Wind make a grid and it is closed but you go there and import your skin your hair all the nice things you want to make your world nice. Josh Wind says well we are going to have your stuff moved to another grid it a new name. This is a Reality does it happen oh yes. When people say hey do not do that. Then the naive and the deviant jump on you say your drama . The fact is when you spend many years making your own skin and hair. And Joe Blow or Josh Wind can have a copy of everything you have and become the creator. How do you protect your self.
    Stay away from them. If they are in Secondlife go look at the creations look for the “unkown user” because that is a king goon thing. We have looked at that Jira a million times and are unable to reproduce it but that jira is there. But their is wonderful details how to do it with a copybot viewer.
    Funny thing is when the blogger Winter Dick stands up for them wow must be a Canadian thing.

  12.' Penelope Miles says:

    So basically, the honest and legal way to do things, is to ask the creator of whatever it is you want to take with you, for full perms. Some may allow it, some may not.
    I am totally for that and understand completely why.
    I do wish certain items would be usable.
    Say I go to Spellscape, absolutely adore a skin, but my account is in Osgrid. There is no way for me to buy or transfer it.
    Oh poo! It seems silly to me. If the item is no transfer, obviously I cannot use it for reselling or give to a friend.
    I would love for opensim grids to merge financially. They would make so much more money that way. Word of mouth has been fantastic for my business. If a grid wants their own currency, have a deal for those belonging to the grid. For visitors have a high price, for residents, have a lower price. It could also draw more people into the grid itself. I for one am considering Lost Paradise. A friend is a resident there and they have marvelous things.
    Being aware of those nasty thefts, there are still some good and honest people out there in the world.
    Perhaps opensim should have a more secure set up and make everything no transfer no modify and no copy.
    If you have high end priced items and someone is asking to take your item to another grid. They obviously have the money to spend. Charge them and arm and a leg and call it a day. If these “copybotters” can copy anything, you are taking a risk no matter what you do.
    I went into the France grid and I saw many Catwa hair and Beautiful Dirty Rich items. You cannot tell me, they got permission? If it’s easy for some, it will be easy for all.
    I had a friend who done that blasted copybotting. He was caught and fined. However, he is an example of how ridiculously easy it is to steal from any grid, because he’s a fool! lol
    I have many close friends in SL that have giving me permission to use their items in an opensim grid. They trust I will not resell and be an advertisement wearing their items.
    One can dream for a perfect world, even in the virtual world. Maybe one day it will come true.